it doesnt suck and neither does the challengers the seats are really nice on the chally and on that stang as well... but look at the rest of the car its all plastic just like all american cars... just cuz the leather is red doesnt mean its better... i actually like the challenger tight nit cockpit type seats better than that red leather but to his their own. stop complaining and enjoy the positives of the car. i hate when forums turn into this.