Skip man I'm not missing the point. I realize what the Challenger means to some people. One of my best friends is a mopar fanboy. I love the look of the new Challenger and I may still someday buy one.

We were discussing performance/$ in general here. Other considerations were secondary. That's what the banter was about.

Personally, I like the look of the Challenger better than the Mustang. But I'm picking up a Mustang this weekend - because it's not just about the looks or the "mystique" to me.

To each his own. I'm just glad we have so much choice in the matter nowadays!