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npeifer, many dealers are already compromising on the MSRP. Since the production of the '09s is not limited, the quantity will only be metered by the number of orders and allotment. To offer at MSRP to these folks (not missing the fact you ARE soliciting) is ridiculous. Hell I just ordered an '09 Challenger near Invoice. Can you beat that?
People, the prices of the '09 Challenger will be out in a couple weeks, have some patience.
I have confidence the market will be weak (at least until after November 8^) ) for fuel hungry cars, and dealers are already feeling the pinch. Chrysler was down 21% in sales last quarter, Toyota was down 18% - This is big news.
Just wait, the deals will be there. Dealers are praying the market for this car will be there, and we are praying we can get a car at a reasonable price. This is the perfect storm for buyers. See, it is a dance. Wait for them to lower their price and you can get a great deal.
As an example. for the 2008 Challenger SRT8 Here is something to chew on MSRP is $41,985, Invoice is $39,732 margin is: $2,253 and holdback is $400.
You should be able to walk into any dealer and tell them at a minimum to spit the uplift. Making your car 39,732 + 1,126 = 40,858. If you are firm, honest and fair you could offer them $1000 over dealer cost. There is enough economic concern, as well as weak sales that a smart dealer would take a $1000 uplift (holdback + 600). You could effectively walk out paying 40332 and you would both be happy or close to happy. If dealers can not sell gas guzzlers, many will not put a 40K liability on their lot. So, ... they will wait to get order(s), if they don't see many then Chrysler will be forced to provide incentives. As soon as there are incentives on Challengers, strike while the iron is hot.
Dealer gouging really upsets me. For those in sales we know there is one truth, everything is negotiable.
Sorry, I sort of got on a soap box. But I feel better now 8^)
Yes I can beat a 2009 Challenger near invoice but I definitely will NOT for you.
Wow some of you guys quote as if you KNOW the car business better than me(and you may ?). I will refrain from pointing out many of the obvious mistakes in your post except to tell you that the holdback on the car you are speaking of would be approx. $1200 not $400. You will be hard pressed to find a dealer willing to give up any holdback on ANY car much less a Challenger.
I am sure you are right that eventually these cars will soften up, but as with most new models they will stay warm for a period of time and most 2009's will sell in the neighborhood of MSRP I have a feeling. I'm sure you are aware also that most people have trade-in's and usually a trade is negotiated into the price of a new car.
I have run VinVision for many people here and attempted to answer as many questions as possible for you guys. I have a great relationship with my Sales Rep at Chrysler and have made several phone calls for people with questions on Challengers, not to make a profit but to help people who are as excited as I am to get their new car. I did not join the club in hopes of selling cars but to be a member of a community that is in love with the same car as I am. I hope that most people visit their local dealers and are well satisfied with what they are told and can purchase the car of their choice in a timely fashion. If they cannot do that, I will help any way I can.
Again , feel free to ignore my post but there really is no sense in bashing me just because I run a dealership ? It's like the dealer is always wrong, no matter what I/we say or do.
Neal