dont hold your breath on that 6.4L challenger...there is nothing to suggest that it will happen, and dodge will never build a car to compete with the viper, unless its priced like the viper...and i know that im sure not willing to pay 85,000 for the challenger...500hp or not.

the first challengers will be the "Collectors items"...especially if they are limited production. its just how it is...the first mustangs (s197), even though they had some bugs that werent worked out yet, are the same way. however, ive said before, i dont have to get the first challenger in the county...i just want to get one. if the RT (6.1) is price around 32,000...i will happily wait until all the old men who like to waste money, who will never drive their challenger pay their 10k or msrp, and they get stuck with the "bugs" and recalls.