RE: GM vs. DCX
in reply to RLSH700 (i dont like having mile-long quote boxes)
A few things in reply to your points, all of which are valid...well, none of our points are really "valid", as the cars that we are comparing arent released yet..but anyway.
it has been "officially announced" that the GT500 will be 500hp. While i am also aware that many places have gotten the 6.1L hemi to dyno to the mid 460 range, that is on a crank dyno, devoid of external loads. but say that a charger srt8 with the 6.1L will dyno to 467 bhp., that means that it is still about 33 hp less than the GT500. the next thing to consider is the past ford blower motors. the blown 4.6L in the terminators are rated at 390hp, but ANY terminator owner will tell you that the 390hp is under rated, much like the 6.1L, so what is to say that ford hasnt done the same thing with the 5.4L blower motor? you say that i cant use the 4.6L SC motor, but i think that its fair to point out that it is under rated. Ill talk to a few cobra owners i know and find out exactly how much.
next, while a blwn application of the 5.4 is newer, and the Ford GT is having all sorts of problems, the 5.4L itself is not a new engine. as for the supercharged mustang problems, i am not aware of any problems with the engine itself...and even if there are, it is a different engine. and while i am well aware that the mustang is by no means known for its reliability, ive seen vipers come into the shop with the front frame section pulled apart from hard launches...i do agree that the supercharged engine is 'stretched" more, but the bottom line is that there are PRETTY good odds that the GT500 is the better buy, as there has been alot of R&D gone into it, and they have used these parts on current stangs and refined things...the challenger is a whole new shot in the dark, and the only basis for comparison is the charger/300c. therefore, they have no business charging the same price as the GT500.
one last, minor thing to consider is the sort of "goodwill" of the mustang name. people will pay more for a car with over 40 years of performance history...that same account does not work for the challenger which is made, literally, out of parts of other cars, and doesnt have the following.
and this 60,000 price tag idea is ridiculous...for only 10 grand more, you can get a new Z06, and if anyone here can honestly compare the new Z06 to the challenger, you obviously have not done any research about the Z06.
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