Well it's a whole lot of car and I wasn't going to wait around for news like there goinna gouge the 09' because I think all SRT models will be gouged which is why I just got a brawn new 08 and paid 9 over sticker. I have a feeling 09 is not going to be different. The economy is fucked up and dealers want there dough. And when people are willing to pay 60-70k for the car then to most dealers it seems stupid to sell it for 40 or under.