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Old 02-01-2008, 09:39 AM
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n Two-door CTS appears to be a done deal: You might have seen it at the recent North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Mich. auto show. Well, the Sleuth is here to tell you it s going to happen sometime next year. General Motors will produce a version of its Cadillac CTS coupe concept beginning in the summer of 2009. GM is Cadillac s parent. The CTS coupe program began back in 2006 under the codename GMX226. The CTS coupe will roll off GM s Lansing (Mich.) Grand River plant. Production is slated to total 15,000-20,000 units a year. The car might be called CTC, but recent trademark filings by GM indicate it might be called CT6 instead. The production version will look similar to the concept with only a few changes expected. Look for the road version to add a decklid spoiler and forgo the show car s center exhaust setup for a more conventional one. It looks hot. It will be hot.

n New BMW will be half 3-series car, half X3 sport ute: As the Sleuth uncovered a few months ago, BMW is working on a new vehicle that s directly based on the 3-Series car. The Sleuth s insiders report that BMW engineers are using the body of a 3-Series wagon on top of a sport ute chassis. Company insiders say the new model codenamed F3 will probably arrive as a 2010 model. The ride will provide the high seating position of a sport ute with the layout of a traditional station wagon.

n Maybe we should just stop talking about the NSX until we actually see it?: The Sleuth
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has told you about the on-again, off-again story of the NSX supercar from Acura. It was on again and, well, consider delayed again. This time it s for styling reasons. Honda showed its Advanced Sports Car Concept at last year s North American International Auto show in Detroit, Mich., supposedly a preview of the next-generation NSX, but failed to deliver a production prototype despite promises to the contrary at the 2007 Tokyo auto show in October. According to Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda Motor Co., the delay is internal. All of the designers are working together on the NSX, but they can t agree on the styling, he told trade publication Automotive News. Acura is Honda s upscale division. Collier also said that Acura left the last-generation NSX on the market for too long without any significant upgrades. He said that would not be the case with the next iteration of the car. We must get it right. We must have the right image. A lot of it is perception with the customer, Collier said, although the Sleuth thinks the ongoing indecision can t be doing much for that public perception. Honda says the next-generation NSX will hit the market before the redesigned Acura RL, which will bow in 2010.

n BMW considers entirely new brand for its green cars: The word out of Bavaria, Germany, is that BMW is now considering developing a whole new brand to market fuel-efficient vehicles without interfering with the image of its current brands and models. Sources said BMW has decided against transforming its Mini line into that role, buying another automaker, or reviving the Riley or Triumph brands. Creating a new brand might be the most viable option since smaller cars with low-displacement engines or gas/electric hybrid drivetrains might not fit with the BMW or Mini program. While BMW has developed a hybrid drivetrain for its X6 tall wagon and next 7-Series sedan, the green brand would go far beyond this in terms of efficiency, sacrificing performance and luxury.

n Volvo has big plans for new tall wagon: This Swedish brand didn t show much new stuff at the recent North American International Auto show in Detroit, Mich., other than its new R-design trim level. However, Volvo has bigger plans for the Geneva, Switzerland, show in March. There, the company will officially unveil its XC60 tall wagon, a direct answer to Acura s RDX
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Great find Skippy! Does 30,000 units in 2009 seem a bit low to anybody else? I mean, aren't they planning to offer 2, V8 versions AND a six clylinder too? I bet they could probably sell 30,000 V6s if they priced it right. I dunno....
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How many units a year is Ford pushing out on the Mustang? Not even sure why I'm asking but I'm hoping for a decent comparison I guess.
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30k definitely sounds low. They've already said they took preorders for about 9,000 2008s and they're only making 6400. So at 30k a year that's 2500 a month meaning the whole first month (and then some) of challenger production is gonna go to the remaining people who placed orders for 08s.
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i believe that in 2006, ford produced about 166,000 mustangs...im not sure if that includes models allocated to the likes of saleen, roush, etc..
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And about 83,000 of them went to hertz...........
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Cool, thanks for info!
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I do think it sounds low but there in lies the question of who at Crysler HQ is doing the deep dive on this type of stuff in determination of production numbers. Additionally, with the 3rd shift cuts at Brampton, what are the numbers they can actually meet on those lines? If they have to ramp up for any miscalculations in demand, will they be able to raise production despite shift cuts? I guess we will find out as the year moves forward. Let's hope lots more info flows out of Chrysler HQ as the Challenger launches this coming Wednesday.
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it does not make sense... why sell 30,000 units when you can sell 166,000?.. we all know the challenger is going to outsell[sm=shades.gif] the mustang
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ORIGINAL: Justinec101

30k definitely sounds low. They've already said they took preorders for about 9,000 2008s and they're only making 6400. So at 30k a year that's 2500 a month meaning the whole first month (and then some) of challenger production is gonna go to the remaining people who placed orders for 08s.
And who knows what will happen to demand once the Challengers start hitting the street...


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