390 is not to the wheels and I never intended it to be implied. 390 HP to the crank not 376 which is the stated HP. My car is a 6-speed R/T and I have ran a best of 13.4 at 106 MPH. I would say with the weight and the 1/4 mile time it is better than 376 HP. Please look at the dyno #s for stock R/Ts and know that its under rated from the factory. The dyno #s I am seing range from 335 to 360 at the wheels. The R/T is a nice big package and there is many mods out there to put you over 400 wheel HP with just tuning and bolt ons. The 5.7 is a more technological engine than the 6.1. Not to bash the 6.1 because its a stout product. But a 6.4 would be an improvement. When it comes out we will have to discuss this again with the results they post on the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

 

lear4406, have you ever put your car on a scale? I hear all kinds of numbers on how heavy these cars are, but I don't know of anyone who's actually weighed one. I'm no better, haven't weighed ours yet either, and the neighbors only a few miles away have a scale we can use.

 

I weighed my '09 SE, empty with about a 1/3 full gas tank and it came out as 3590 lbs after I subtract my own weight. Gas is 6lbs/gallon so the car's basic empty weight is roughly 3350 lbs. Full fuel (19 gal= 114lbs) should bring the weight to roughly 3464. Rough math, but hope that helps

 

Yeah I weighed it at Z-Max on their scales and it came out to 4145 lbs with me in it. And I weigh 170 lbs. But mine is a stripper model. No leather or my gig. It does have the sun roof and the track pack. I knew it would be heavy so I tried to go with as light a package as I could. Originally I had a black R/T with no sun roof and all the items deleted as mentioned. But that fell through and I got the Inferno RED with said package and loved the car ever since. It does run good times for stock tires still on it. 13.4 best to date. I feel some sticky tires with cool conditions my son could put it in the 13.0-13.1. Not too shabby for a big heavy car.

 

the 2011 GT Mustang puts out 412 hp damn thats alot out of a 5.0L

 

Unless the mule that was given to the press is a ringer then the crank HP on this pony was 440 to 450 HP. There is a dyno of the 2011 GT and it shows how under rated the 5.0 is. Remeber this is a 4 cam, 4 valves per cylinder 5.0 not to be confused with the 80s push rod engine. This engine is high tech and on the cutting edge with its intake and exhaust VVT. Dodge and GM have decided to stay with the push rod V-8s and take them as far as they can. Fords approch is different. Also the Mustang is lighter and needs to be because the torque is a lower @ 390 ft. lbs. The 5.7 Dodge puts out 410 ft. lbs and 6.1 is @ 420 as is the 6.2 GM motor. Could be the liter size of the 5.0 to the 6.1 and 6.2 that dictates the torque numbers.

 

still though there 5.0 is obviously far more advanced then our 5.7

 

4 valves per cylinder and 4 camshafts and VVT. Yeah I'd say its more advanced. But theres alot to say for simplicity. 2 valves per cylinder and 1 camshaft. Thats why we go with more liters.LOL. Take a look at the fastest vehicles to run the 1/4... HEMI. And they are big and simple. But for the street its a good choice. Go with Ford and their high tech or go with Dodge and their sledge hammer approch. I'm more of a knucle dragger and I like my brute force.

 

I see that new V6 they got comin out gonna put out 290HP and 260 ft/lbs torque thats pretty good