5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
03-06-2008, 07:09 PM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
that's funny mac i know that feeling. Cause im in my 20's.
I don't think the SRT is worth 15k more though. that's bogus. For what 50-60 horsepower.
The most effiecint way to stomp a mustang is to get a v-6 challenger save maybe close to 20k as oppesed to the 40k sticker on the SRT and drop a crate 402 or 406 in it for about 6 to 7 thousand. Rated at 435hp that'll kill a mustang would beat an SRT and still save more over the R/T. Try that on for size Mac.
See Allbeeno you don't need 15k to just beat a mustang. You need to out think them. Ha! Im set on that idea for now.
Plus i really don't think a mustang is gonna kill the R/T it'll PROBABLY barely beat it. Like i said earlier if Car and driver is correct then it's gonna be a good race. Check out the new issue, it makes me more of a believer that's for sure. Peace...
I don't think the SRT is worth 15k more though. that's bogus. For what 50-60 horsepower.
The most effiecint way to stomp a mustang is to get a v-6 challenger save maybe close to 20k as oppesed to the 40k sticker on the SRT and drop a crate 402 or 406 in it for about 6 to 7 thousand. Rated at 435hp that'll kill a mustang would beat an SRT and still save more over the R/T. Try that on for size Mac.
See Allbeeno you don't need 15k to just beat a mustang. You need to out think them. Ha! Im set on that idea for now.
Plus i really don't think a mustang is gonna kill the R/T it'll PROBABLY barely beat it. Like i said earlier if Car and driver is correct then it's gonna be a good race. Check out the new issue, it makes me more of a believer that's for sure. Peace...
03-06-2008, 11:25 PM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
lol that sounds like a good idea till you come back to reality. the v6 will not be priced at 20k.... it will probably be priced similar to the charger v6 which is 22k msrp with nothing absolutely nothing , anywayz you will not be dropping in any crate for just 6-7 grand look at the mopar crate site in order to put out the max power which is 435 hp they recomend headers and exhaust thats another 4-5k then you need instilation lets say 1k and then you need a new suspension to hold the power, and new tires and rims to put the power to the ground.... dont tell me your going to put all that power to the ground with the v6 tires, cuz you wont. so that tallys up to about 16k on top of the 22k base price (probably will be more).
so your going to have cloth interior and no esp for 38k which is the price of the srt8 challenger without navigation.... and the srt8 has warranty on the suspension and all that good stuff....oh and you get leather seats and a sunroof. so if you really calculate it in my opinion it isnt worth it. but if you can find everything dirt cheap then do it. but i would pay a couple grand extra for reliability then go through the trouble that you listed.
so your going to have cloth interior and no esp for 38k which is the price of the srt8 challenger without navigation.... and the srt8 has warranty on the suspension and all that good stuff....oh and you get leather seats and a sunroof. so if you really calculate it in my opinion it isnt worth it. but if you can find everything dirt cheap then do it. but i would pay a couple grand extra for reliability then go through the trouble that you listed.
03-07-2008, 05:16 AM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
Of course if some were brave, brazen or possibly stupid.....5.7 bored? Anyone hear of anyone boring these puppies and to what new CID?
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03-07-2008, 07:19 AM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
The new 5.7 Hemi produces 380/404.
The 6.1 Hemi produces 425/420.
Does anybody know if they are going to update the 6.1 or change out to the 6.4 for the SRT????
I like the SRT but if that's the hp/tq numbers in 09-10 model when I want to buy... i'll be getting a 5.7! 45hp and 16tq is not worth the extra $$$$$$$. With money saved, hello supercharger!
The 6.1 Hemi produces 425/420.
Does anybody know if they are going to update the 6.1 or change out to the 6.4 for the SRT????
I like the SRT but if that's the hp/tq numbers in 09-10 model when I want to buy... i'll be getting a 5.7! 45hp and 16tq is not worth the extra $$$$$$$. With money saved, hello supercharger!
03-07-2008, 09:57 AM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
Im sure they'll offer the performance tires on the V-6. If not that is a bummer.
Whoa!!! Brother!! 4-5k for headers and exhuast!!! Yeah right man sorry i don't think so. You can get a good pair of Headers for about 1 grand my flowmaster kit with 4inch tips was only like 350$.
New shocks? yeah about 50$ bucks a peice.
And my girl-friends dad would do the work which you say would cost 1k?? That would be more like 2-3k but I'd get a very good deal on it. But it would be at his leisure.
I did figure the V-6 would cost about 22k it was a rough estimate. I could get a 402 in a challenger for under 10k man. Which is gonna be less then an r/t.
What's up Urlosingbd!! I've been saying super-charger since i joined this site. Nice to see somone can see the light.
there's no lifetime warranty on the SRT and a new car is good for 3 years anyway bumper to bumper only works out the kinks the factory didn't.
Im not on board for the SRT, Im totally for super charging the R/t or dropping a beast in the V-6 model.
Whoa!!! Brother!! 4-5k for headers and exhuast!!! Yeah right man sorry i don't think so. You can get a good pair of Headers for about 1 grand my flowmaster kit with 4inch tips was only like 350$.
New shocks? yeah about 50$ bucks a peice.
And my girl-friends dad would do the work which you say would cost 1k?? That would be more like 2-3k but I'd get a very good deal on it. But it would be at his leisure.
I did figure the V-6 would cost about 22k it was a rough estimate. I could get a 402 in a challenger for under 10k man. Which is gonna be less then an r/t.
What's up Urlosingbd!! I've been saying super-charger since i joined this site. Nice to see somone can see the light.
there's no lifetime warranty on the SRT and a new car is good for 3 years anyway bumper to bumper only works out the kinks the factory didn't.
Im not on board for the SRT, Im totally for super charging the R/t or dropping a beast in the V-6 model.
03-07-2008, 10:41 AM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
Hey MrKrisSullivan... just trying to live the American Dream!
I agree w/ headers, mods, etc.
I've got an 2006 Mustang GT. Was about to start heavy modding until I decided to go to the dark side. Good SS headers (Kooks, American Racing) cost roughly $1200. That's with the x or h pipe. A set of MAC headers will run about $800 w/ prochamber. Catback, depends on your poison but can run from $300 to $800. I've currently got a flowmaster cat-back which was $290 shipped. CAI is about $300 PLUS a tuner and tune is another $400. That about $2500 for some basic mods that I'm sure half the people on this board will do! Who don't want their Challenger sounding like a mean machine... I sure do! But with just those basic mods of moving some air, that would be about 40wrhp on a little 281 stang engine. With a 5.7 or 6.1 that's going to be allot better!
Add some basic suspension mods; springs, shocks, etc. and you have a sweet ride for about $3700. Of course that's doing it all yourself, which I will be.
sorry for the rambling.. I'm bored at work.
I agree w/ headers, mods, etc.
I've got an 2006 Mustang GT. Was about to start heavy modding until I decided to go to the dark side. Good SS headers (Kooks, American Racing) cost roughly $1200. That's with the x or h pipe. A set of MAC headers will run about $800 w/ prochamber. Catback, depends on your poison but can run from $300 to $800. I've currently got a flowmaster cat-back which was $290 shipped. CAI is about $300 PLUS a tuner and tune is another $400. That about $2500 for some basic mods that I'm sure half the people on this board will do! Who don't want their Challenger sounding like a mean machine... I sure do!
But with just those basic mods of moving some air, that would be about 40wrhp on a little 281 stang engine. With a 5.7 or 6.1 that's going to be allot better!Add some basic suspension mods; springs, shocks, etc. and you have a sweet ride for about $3700. Of course that's doing it all yourself, which I will be.
sorry for the rambling.. I'm bored at work.
03-07-2008, 07:55 PM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
no man totally.... Im right there all the way, I do benifet (sp)? from my girl-friends dad being able to do the work for about nothing.
Yeah im TRYING to live the dream. That's good to hear your numbers gain which is pretty good. Yep bigger engines bigger gains. I wish dodge would find a way to re-vamp this 6.1 like they did with the 5.7. It just doesn't make sense to me, to pay almost 10k more for leather and a bigger block with only 40-50 more ponies. And some gas shocks.
If dodge would re-vamp the 6.1 to pull another 40-50hp out of it like they did with the 5.7 i could definatly see that being a fair deal, but honestly i think dodge is trying to sell us the 392 already then they'll make the 6.1 better and make everyone that bought the 6.1 in 08 and 09 look like idiots.
a blown 5.7 seems to make the most CENTS
. Lol! and most economical/ less time consuming. Peace...
Yeah im TRYING to live the dream. That's good to hear your numbers gain which is pretty good. Yep bigger engines bigger gains. I wish dodge would find a way to re-vamp this 6.1 like they did with the 5.7. It just doesn't make sense to me, to pay almost 10k more for leather and a bigger block with only 40-50 more ponies. And some gas shocks.
If dodge would re-vamp the 6.1 to pull another 40-50hp out of it like they did with the 5.7 i could definatly see that being a fair deal, but honestly i think dodge is trying to sell us the 392 already then they'll make the 6.1 better and make everyone that bought the 6.1 in 08 and 09 look like idiots.
a blown 5.7 seems to make the most CENTS
. Lol! and most economical/ less time consuming. Peace...
03-08-2008, 02:59 AM
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RE: 5.7 R/T or 6.1 SRT
I'm down with the R/T, sure i'd love an SRT-8 but if they're going to continue this craziness with the premiums above sticker (i understand the gas guzzler tax - don't like it but...) I'll get an R/T, hopefully the 5.7 will have the increased HP/TQ they're saying and do my subtle mods. I'm not looking to "race" the world, just have my little "force field" of happiness whenever i would drive the thing. Who knows - may even opt for the 6-speed (that will go over REAL well with the wife).