R/T 1/4 mile & 0-60 times
08-13-2008, 12:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: Albeeno
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
ORIGINAL: 73Challenger
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
Just my 2 cents...
08-13-2008, 01:40 PM
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Hes not a Troll!
Hes a Pirate YAAARGH!!!
I dont think hes whining so much as stating his own opinion. Its good to have a little contention on a forum. Having views from both sides help keep the discussion balanced. I doubt hes posting just to get a rise out of us (as an actuall Troll would). Besides, he does have a point about the interior on the Challegner. It went from Wow in the concept to just OK in production. Even though it grew on me in the end, I would have liked a little more aluminum accents or anything to distinguish it from the other LX cars. And while I give the Camaro props for originality in their interior, it just aint for me. Too over the top IMHO. As for performance, you know there is always going to be a huge war between the "big three" enthusiasts. As for me, I like what they all bring to the table. It just so happends that the Challenger won me over.
Hes a Pirate YAAARGH!!!
I dont think hes whining so much as stating his own opinion. Its good to have a little contention on a forum. Having views from both sides help keep the discussion balanced. I doubt hes posting just to get a rise out of us (as an actuall Troll would). Besides, he does have a point about the interior on the Challegner. It went from Wow in the concept to just OK in production. Even though it grew on me in the end, I would have liked a little more aluminum accents or anything to distinguish it from the other LX cars. And while I give the Camaro props for originality in their interior, it just aint for me. Too over the top IMHO. As for performance, you know there is always going to be a huge war between the "big three" enthusiasts. As for me, I like what they all bring to the table. It just so happends that the Challenger won me over.
08-13-2008, 01:56 PM
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I tend to agree with Albeeno in terms of the interior. It's nothing special. I will need to have my dealership order the Katzkin seats to add the zest the interior should already have at the pricepoint I'm paying.
08-13-2008, 02:08 PM
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Yes I will sit in my ugly interior and continue to blow Shelbys off the road.That will give the Shelby owner a reason why he got smoked was cause his interior is prettier.
08-13-2008, 02:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: Albeeno
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
ORIGINAL: 73Challenger
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
and mopar he isnt a troll he has been here for a while. I know it gets annoying sometimes seeing him pop up and blabber negative things about the challenger but it is his opinion and it is his right to have an opinion. But it is also our right to put him in his place hehe
.just my 50 cents.
08-13-2008, 02:55 PM
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Personally I think they tried to take the rear off of a Corvette and put it to good use on the back of the Camaro. In this, GM failed terribly. To me, that car is outright butt ugly. I have seen several of the concepts including the Bumblebee one from the movie nad no matter which way I look at that car it is hideous. As the saying goes, if I had a dog that looked that damn ugly I would shave its butt and teach it to walk backwards. Yes the Challenger may have a mostly in production interior but it was to save money and time to get that car to market. People are familar with it so it works. However how many problems will GM have with that "State of the Art" crap as people try to get used to it and also from being so new?
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I happen to have soft spot in my heart for all of the Big 3 muscle cars. It just so happens that I own a Ford...my 5th consecutive Ford, no less. However, I did not read anywhere in the rule book that I was not allowed to like or in some cases (like Challenger) LOVE the others.
Try and look at it this way: Its like you are dating a nice, beautiful girl who you love to pieces, she is great, she really is. But she has been the only show in town for quite sometime now. I mean she is the hottest of all her friends, she is definitely the coolest, friendliest, easiest to get along with, etc. and she even enjoys doing pretty much all the same stuff you do. Plus, she is loyal as Hell. At this pont in the relationship you can prety much finish each others sentences. Now, on the other hand she has two extremely hot younger Sisters and your imagination starts getting the best of you somedays. Sometimes you feel guilty just for even having these thoughts and you subconsciously begin defending your best girl on random message boards with people you do not even know during your lunch break to somehow try and convince yourself that the best thing to do is maybe just to stick with her...despite the ridiculous level of sibling hotness going on in that family. And I mean RIDICULOUS! Still with me mopar2ya? OK, good. At the end of the day though you just know in your heart of hearts that all those fantasies you have been having could easily become a reality IF you allowed it to happen. I mean she is beggin for it! A big obstacle though is she costs A LOT! So, then you begin trying to determine if she is really worth it. This one is gonna be hi maintenance fo sho. Your beautiful, loyal girlfriend that you've been with since November 2005 is great...she still looks awesome, she still enjoys a good beating (on) and performs well when ya need her to, so why in the world would you want to get rid of her?
That is the battle that has been raging in my twisted mind since January 2006 when both Challenger and Camaro literally rose from the dead at the North American Intenational Auto Show. I hope this helps open some sort of window into my thought process. And if you held my feet to the fire and made me say which one I like the best, despite having no qualms whatsoever with my Mustang, I would take a new Challenger R/T in Stoned White in a HEARTBEAT! I just wish it was a little faster and cost a little less. I really wish it was at least as fast as what I am considering giving up. And therein lies the problem.
So, although you may feel that all I am doing here is throwing stones inside a glass house, I think you have got me all wrong. I simply like to throw it out there, get some consensus from many well-informed fellow enthusiasts and take that data to ultimately arrive at an educated, well thought out decision.
PS: And don't even tell me you don't like that beautiful, convertible, red SuperSnake in my sig. I hope she is your proverbial "hot younger Sister". At the end of the day you need me out there as much as I need you; end of story...
Try and look at it this way: Its like you are dating a nice, beautiful girl who you love to pieces, she is great, she really is. But she has been the only show in town for quite sometime now. I mean she is the hottest of all her friends, she is definitely the coolest, friendliest, easiest to get along with, etc. and she even enjoys doing pretty much all the same stuff you do. Plus, she is loyal as Hell. At this pont in the relationship you can prety much finish each others sentences. Now, on the other hand she has two extremely hot younger Sisters and your imagination starts getting the best of you somedays. Sometimes you feel guilty just for even having these thoughts and you subconsciously begin defending your best girl on random message boards with people you do not even know during your lunch break to somehow try and convince yourself that the best thing to do is maybe just to stick with her...despite the ridiculous level of sibling hotness going on in that family. And I mean RIDICULOUS! Still with me mopar2ya? OK, good. At the end of the day though you just know in your heart of hearts that all those fantasies you have been having could easily become a reality IF you allowed it to happen. I mean she is beggin for it! A big obstacle though is she costs A LOT! So, then you begin trying to determine if she is really worth it. This one is gonna be hi maintenance fo sho. Your beautiful, loyal girlfriend that you've been with since November 2005 is great...she still looks awesome, she still enjoys a good beating (on) and performs well when ya need her to, so why in the world would you want to get rid of her?
That is the battle that has been raging in my twisted mind since January 2006 when both Challenger and Camaro literally rose from the dead at the North American Intenational Auto Show. I hope this helps open some sort of window into my thought process. And if you held my feet to the fire and made me say which one I like the best, despite having no qualms whatsoever with my Mustang, I would take a new Challenger R/T in Stoned White in a HEARTBEAT! I just wish it was a little faster and cost a little less. I really wish it was at least as fast as what I am considering giving up. And therein lies the problem.
So, although you may feel that all I am doing here is throwing stones inside a glass house, I think you have got me all wrong. I simply like to throw it out there, get some consensus from many well-informed fellow enthusiasts and take that data to ultimately arrive at an educated, well thought out decision.
PS: And don't even tell me you don't like that beautiful, convertible, red SuperSnake in my sig. I hope she is your proverbial "hot younger Sister". At the end of the day you need me out there as much as I need you; end of story...
ORIGINAL: mopar2ya
Albeeno... with all due respect... I have listened to you whine and moan about the Challenger and brag up the Mustang and Camaro for over a year on this board. You dont like the Challenger fine... dont buy one. You like the Camaro and Mustang... buy one and join thier forums. I think the idea behind this forum is the Challenger enthusiast... thus the name. Your acts are none different than those of a typical forum troll for the most part. I personally would prefer you go Camaro... of Mustang... or whatever floats your boat and have fun doing so...
Just my 2 cents...
ORIGINAL: Albeeno
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
ORIGINAL: 73Challenger
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
Just my 2 cents...
08-13-2008, 03:15 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that Albeeno. Good analogy. I was starting to wonder if you were just drinking from a large cooler of Haterade but now I understand. I would not get too caught up in the bench racing though. The figures from Dodge seem to be a little conservative and that guy in the video at the beginning of this thread did not seem to know much of anything. And the newly avaliable (or is that barely legal) challenger is soooo hot.
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ORIGINAL: Albeeno
I happen to have soft spot in my heart for all of the Big 3 muscle cars. It just so happens that I own a Ford...my 5th consecutive Ford, no less. However, I didn't read anywhere in the rule book that I wasn't allowed to like or in some cases (like Challenger) LOVE the others.
Try and look at it this way: It's like you're dating a nice, beautiful girl who you love to pieces, she's great, she really is. But she's been the only show in town for quite sometime now. I mean she's the hottest of all her friends, she is definitely the coolest, friendliest, easiest to get along with, etc. and she even enjoys doing pretty much all the same stuff you do. Plus, she's loyal as Hell. At this pont in the relationship you can prety much finish each others sentences. Now, on the other hand she has two extremely hot younger Sisters and your imagination starts getting the best of you somedays. Sometimes you feel guilty just for even having these thoughts and you subconsciously begin defending your best girl on random message boards with people you do not even know during your lunch break to somehow try and convince yourself that the best thing to do is maybe just to stick with her...despite the ridiculous level of sibling hotness going on in that family. And I mean RIDICULOUS! Still with me mopar2ya? OK, good. At the end of the day though you just know in your heart of hearts that all those fantasies you have been having could easily become a reality IF you allowed it to happen. I mean she is beggin for it! A big obstacle though is she costs A LOT! So, then you begin trying to determine if she is really worth it. This one is gonna be hi maintenance fo sho. Your beautiful, loyal girlfriend that you've been with since November 2005 is great...she still looks awesome, she still enjoys a good beating (on) and performs well when ya need her to, so why in the world would you want to get rid of her?
That is the battle that has been raging in my twisted mind since January 2006 when both Challenger and Camaro literally rose from the dead at the North American Intenational Auto Show. I hope this helps open some sort of window into my thought process. And if you held my feet to the fire and made me say which one I like the best, despite having no qualms whatsoever with my Mustang, I would take a new Challenger R/T in Stoned White in a HEARTBEAT! I just wish it was a little faster and cost a little less. I really wish it was at least as fast as what I am considering giving up. And therein lies the problem.
So, although you may feel that all I am doing here is throwing stones inside a glass house, I think you have got me all wrong. I simply like to throw it out there, get some consensus from many well-informed fellow enthusiasts and take that data to ultimately arrive at an educated, well thought out decision.
PS: And don't even tell me you don't like that beautiful, convertible, red SuperSnake in my sig. I hope she is your proverbial "hot younger Sister". At the end of the day you need me out there as much as I need you; end of story...
I happen to have soft spot in my heart for all of the Big 3 muscle cars. It just so happens that I own a Ford...my 5th consecutive Ford, no less. However, I didn't read anywhere in the rule book that I wasn't allowed to like or in some cases (like Challenger) LOVE the others.
Try and look at it this way: It's like you're dating a nice, beautiful girl who you love to pieces, she's great, she really is. But she's been the only show in town for quite sometime now. I mean she's the hottest of all her friends, she is definitely the coolest, friendliest, easiest to get along with, etc. and she even enjoys doing pretty much all the same stuff you do. Plus, she's loyal as Hell. At this pont in the relationship you can prety much finish each others sentences. Now, on the other hand she has two extremely hot younger Sisters and your imagination starts getting the best of you somedays. Sometimes you feel guilty just for even having these thoughts and you subconsciously begin defending your best girl on random message boards with people you do not even know during your lunch break to somehow try and convince yourself that the best thing to do is maybe just to stick with her...despite the ridiculous level of sibling hotness going on in that family. And I mean RIDICULOUS! Still with me mopar2ya? OK, good. At the end of the day though you just know in your heart of hearts that all those fantasies you have been having could easily become a reality IF you allowed it to happen. I mean she is beggin for it! A big obstacle though is she costs A LOT! So, then you begin trying to determine if she is really worth it. This one is gonna be hi maintenance fo sho. Your beautiful, loyal girlfriend that you've been with since November 2005 is great...she still looks awesome, she still enjoys a good beating (on) and performs well when ya need her to, so why in the world would you want to get rid of her?
That is the battle that has been raging in my twisted mind since January 2006 when both Challenger and Camaro literally rose from the dead at the North American Intenational Auto Show. I hope this helps open some sort of window into my thought process. And if you held my feet to the fire and made me say which one I like the best, despite having no qualms whatsoever with my Mustang, I would take a new Challenger R/T in Stoned White in a HEARTBEAT! I just wish it was a little faster and cost a little less. I really wish it was at least as fast as what I am considering giving up. And therein lies the problem.
So, although you may feel that all I am doing here is throwing stones inside a glass house, I think you have got me all wrong. I simply like to throw it out there, get some consensus from many well-informed fellow enthusiasts and take that data to ultimately arrive at an educated, well thought out decision.
PS: And don't even tell me you don't like that beautiful, convertible, red SuperSnake in my sig. I hope she is your proverbial "hot younger Sister". At the end of the day you need me out there as much as I need you; end of story...
ORIGINAL: mopar2ya
Albeeno... with all due respect... I have listened to you whine and moan about the Challenger and brag up the Mustang and Camaro for over a year on this board. You dont like the Challenger fine... dont buy one. You like the Camaro and Mustang... buy one and join thier forums. I think the idea behind this forum is the Challenger enthusiast... thus the name. Your acts are none different than those of a typical forum troll for the most part. I personally would prefer you go Camaro... of Mustang... or whatever floats your boat and have fun doing so...
Just my 2 cents...
ORIGINAL: Albeeno
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
I absolutely could not (respectfully) disagree with you more! Camaros interior is almost an exact match of the 2006 concept. Challener can't say the same. Furthermore, it does a much better job matching the exterior WOW factor of teh car than Challenger does. Challengers interior is a mix & match from the 300C and Charger parts bin. Everything in Camaro is brand new, state of the art stuff.
ORIGINAL: 73Challenger
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
I am satisfied with the R/T performance numbers. What's more satisfying is the MPG numbers for a muscle car.
IMO, the interior of the new Camaro is weird. I think the straightforward layout of the new Challenger is far more pleasing to the eye.
Just my 2 cents...
Man Beenster I have understood you since the begining. I too had your mindset but it was with trucks, I was torn between the silverado SS, FORD F-150 and Dodge ram 1500 the02 redesign with the big mean grill. I would think the same thing man the ram is hot but the engine is not that great, man the SS is fast but the exterior isnt that great ect ect...until finally dodge shut me up and put the 5.7 l hemi in the ram and I said SOLD. I see your point of view and it is always good to think that way even if people think you are just here against the challenger, I have seen posts from you praising dodge and the challenger. Let me tell you one thing albeeno these numbers are definately wrong. The old RT with 345 hp did 0-60 in 5.4 sec and with a 300$ tune 5.1 sec that is pretty much already on par with the gt. Let me tell you this new one is for sure going to be tested at 5.1-5.3 stock and what would you rather have a stone white challenger that you have been dying for which is just .2 slower than your previous vehicle(but better in the top end) or would you rather just stick to your old car and watch your baby drive by you as you point and say:
"BABY COME BACK!"
"YOU CAN BLAME IT ALL ON MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
"THER WAS SOMETHING IN EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU!"
so think about it albeeno, trust me .2 is just a piece of the equation there is more to it than that.