Went thru 3 trees last night...
#25
RE: Went thru 3 trees last night...
ORIGINAL: trev
Pine Needles+experienced driver+traction control=Disaster
...
so I turn into it to correct the turn like I'M supposed to. car straightens out and continue driving
AND THEN orange light starts blinking super crazy the brakes LOCK UP because of the pine needles
the back end swings out the OTHER way towards the inside of the lane
the passenger side nose of the car just goes thru three trees at about a 6 inch diameter.
====
the messed up part is, i could have gotten out of that situation if I didn't have traction control.
i'm really angry about this actually.
because i really liked the traction control.
i though it was good, not the best. but really good. and then that had to go and happen.
it was like as soon as the orange light turned on i felt like i was on ice and the car sped up!
and since the tires locked on the pine needles I had NO control
Pine Needles+experienced driver+traction control=Disaster
...
so I turn into it to correct the turn like I'M supposed to. car straightens out and continue driving
AND THEN orange light starts blinking super crazy the brakes LOCK UP because of the pine needles
the back end swings out the OTHER way towards the inside of the lane
the passenger side nose of the car just goes thru three trees at about a 6 inch diameter.
====
the messed up part is, i could have gotten out of that situation if I didn't have traction control.
i'm really angry about this actually.
because i really liked the traction control.
i though it was good, not the best. but really good. and then that had to go and happen.
it was like as soon as the orange light turned on i felt like i was on ice and the car sped up!
and since the tires locked on the pine needles I had NO control
I always thought car mags were flattering themselves when they complained about cars where traction control could not be turned off, but after experiencing the BMW version, I definitely find it a bit annoying/unsettling.
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RE: Went thru 3 trees last night...
thats pretty much what went down.
it corrected my correction.
i anticipated before the traction control did.
it was stupid.
i've never crashed a car in my life.
never even had a close call like that before.
the whole thing is really stupid.
it corrected my correction.
i anticipated before the traction control did.
it was stupid.
i've never crashed a car in my life.
never even had a close call like that before.
the whole thing is really stupid.
ORIGINAL: Thor77
If i am reading this right, it sounds like it was slow on the uptake, and may have interpreted your countersteer to correct the skid as the way you actually wanted to go. That would give the feeling of the back end swinging toward the inside, and you shooting off the road nose first. Scary if that is the case. I do not have a ton of experience with traction control, but I have had a couple instances where I felt that I was correcting the skid before the computer intervened, and that the intervention made a routine correction into a scarier situation.
I always thought car mags were flattering themselves when they complained about cars where traction control could not be turned off, but after experiencing the BMW version, I definitely find it a bit annoying/unsettling.
ORIGINAL: trev
Pine Needles+experienced driver+traction control=Disaster
...
so I turn into it to correct the turn like I'M supposed to. car straightens out and continue driving
AND THEN orange light starts blinking super crazy the brakes LOCK UP because of the pine needles
the back end swings out the OTHER way towards the inside of the lane
the passenger side nose of the car just goes thru three trees at about a 6 inch diameter.
====
the messed up part is, i could have gotten out of that situation if I didn't have traction control.
i'm really angry about this actually.
because i really liked the traction control.
i though it was good, not the best. but really good. and then that had to go and happen.
it was like as soon as the orange light turned on i felt like i was on ice and the car sped up!
and since the tires locked on the pine needles I had NO control
Pine Needles+experienced driver+traction control=Disaster
...
so I turn into it to correct the turn like I'M supposed to. car straightens out and continue driving
AND THEN orange light starts blinking super crazy the brakes LOCK UP because of the pine needles
the back end swings out the OTHER way towards the inside of the lane
the passenger side nose of the car just goes thru three trees at about a 6 inch diameter.
====
the messed up part is, i could have gotten out of that situation if I didn't have traction control.
i'm really angry about this actually.
because i really liked the traction control.
i though it was good, not the best. but really good. and then that had to go and happen.
it was like as soon as the orange light turned on i felt like i was on ice and the car sped up!
and since the tires locked on the pine needles I had NO control
I always thought car mags were flattering themselves when they complained about cars where traction control could not be turned off, but after experiencing the BMW version, I definitely find it a bit annoying/unsettling.
#29
RE: Went thru 3 trees last night...
Glad you are ok . I know the feeling . I wrecked a brand new 71 Challenger RT . Throttle cable stuck wide open . Went into a curve and pulled the automatic to low to try and blow the engine ( should have put it in netural ) . But if the engine isn't running you couldn't steer ( had learned that before ) . The car shifted out and turned sideway's . Climbed a embankment doing over a 100 . Through a yard infront of a house . Hit a small post . My driver side looked just like your passenger side. They fixed it . But was a piece of junk after that . Engine block cracked . Learned after I got rid of the car . The early 71's had some throttle cables that where too long and caused the cable to stick when you had wide open throttle. I'd had it do it once at a traffic light at part throttle . But got it un stuck . Those pine needles are tricky also. I have had some dealing with them also . Almost lost a car on wet leafs also. I'd make them go for a new car.
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RE: Went thru 3 trees last night...
Man sorry to hear about that and glad you're ok. Sucks that the things that suppose to help keep you safe ends up being the thing that messes you up.