Who's waiting for the manual?
12-14-2007, 08:55 PM
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RE: Who's waiting for the manual?
That is the best compliment I have received all day. 
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12-15-2007, 11:02 AM
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RE: Who's waiting for the manual?
5.7L/manual transmission/ordered to my liking from the factory and with my employee discount. I will wait until then. I just hope that 5.7L has enough power up here. I remember having the conversation a little while back about the Avenger/Sebring not having enough in the 2.4L and the V6, but I forgot to mention that I have added altitude that makes such a huge difference.
My wife and I were down in Florida for her neck surgery and rented a sebring there with the 2.4L, same engine in my wife's Avenger, and I have to say that altitude definitley makes a difference. There is definitely more power down there in FL and the car moves much easier, however it is still under powered.
Many people are talking about these small cars and the environment and such and I see us heading back to the 80s and 90s with the speedometers reading only 80 and the power at 140 for a V8. Definitely has me concerned because of the fact that when you live up here and you head into the mountains, good luck not rolling backwards. Sucks that you can't visit the mountains because you don't have enough power. Try and do it in a Dodge Ram back in the day that had 230 hp. Amazing how things have changed with technology. Never thought we would see these horsepower ratings again with the government restrictions. Now let's hope we don't take a step backwards.
As for the manual on the concept, I have a theory on that. Maybe it was one they just threw on from another car, or modified from a truck transmission? I say this because even though this had the 6.1L in it, they had to be really careful with it because it wasn't a complete car correct? You had to turn very carefully, couldn't go to fast, careful on the acceleration. So on that thought, they just had to throw something in it that worked. Maybe I'm wrong, but throwing ideas out there.
My wife and I were down in Florida for her neck surgery and rented a sebring there with the 2.4L, same engine in my wife's Avenger, and I have to say that altitude definitley makes a difference. There is definitely more power down there in FL and the car moves much easier, however it is still under powered.
Many people are talking about these small cars and the environment and such and I see us heading back to the 80s and 90s with the speedometers reading only 80 and the power at 140 for a V8. Definitely has me concerned because of the fact that when you live up here and you head into the mountains, good luck not rolling backwards. Sucks that you can't visit the mountains because you don't have enough power. Try and do it in a Dodge Ram back in the day that had 230 hp. Amazing how things have changed with technology. Never thought we would see these horsepower ratings again with the government restrictions. Now let's hope we don't take a step backwards.
As for the manual on the concept, I have a theory on that. Maybe it was one they just threw on from another car, or modified from a truck transmission? I say this because even though this had the 6.1L in it, they had to be really careful with it because it wasn't a complete car correct? You had to turn very carefully, couldn't go to fast, careful on the acceleration. So on that thought, they just had to throw something in it that worked. Maybe I'm wrong, but throwing ideas out there.
12-15-2007, 11:41 AM
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RE: Who's waiting for the manual?
As for rollovers and safety, it's actually surprising.
Absence of roof is inherent disadvantage. High-speed crashes are violent events, and the roof of a hardtop helps to keep people's heads and arms from flailing outside the vehicle. Roofs also provide protection if a vehicle rolls over. Data from real-world crashes indicate that the overall risk of death isn't higher in a convertible, but this doesn't mean there aren't any safety disadvantages.
As for a regular crash however.
Restraints/dummy kinematics: Dummy movement was reasonably well controlled. The dummy's head hit the A-pillar, which bent downward and inward during the crash. This is one of the unfortunate drawbacks of convertibles. Without a permanent roof structure to support the A-Pillar, they often tend to move straight in at the heads of occupants
This is a little bit backwards from what I thought. I figured that flipping would cause more injury then a regular crash, but the above says otherwise.
http://www.themustangnews.com/carnew...-0607-iihs.htm
Absence of roof is inherent disadvantage. High-speed crashes are violent events, and the roof of a hardtop helps to keep people's heads and arms from flailing outside the vehicle. Roofs also provide protection if a vehicle rolls over. Data from real-world crashes indicate that the overall risk of death isn't higher in a convertible, but this doesn't mean there aren't any safety disadvantages.
As for a regular crash however.
Restraints/dummy kinematics: Dummy movement was reasonably well controlled. The dummy's head hit the A-pillar, which bent downward and inward during the crash. This is one of the unfortunate drawbacks of convertibles. Without a permanent roof structure to support the A-Pillar, they often tend to move straight in at the heads of occupants
This is a little bit backwards from what I thought. I figured that flipping would cause more injury then a regular crash, but the above says otherwise.
http://www.themustangnews.com/carnew...-0607-iihs.htm
12-15-2007, 06:50 PM
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RE: Who's waiting for the manual?
The data on a convertibles safety is as good as under what conditions it was assimilated.
If this truck had been a convertible, my friend would not be alive today. This accident was 2 weeks ago.
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If this truck had been a convertible, my friend would not be alive today. This accident was 2 weeks ago.
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12-16-2007, 10:03 AM
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RE: Who's waiting for the manual?
I ride motorcycles...so convertibles never really were an exclusion due to safety reasons....I've just never been really turned on by them.....OK, I really liked my friend's 67 Impala Convertible in mint condition...that was a sweet ride.....
Had the super easy power steering and you could easily fit 4 high school students in the back and 3 in the front (don't get the wrong idea folks, I was in High School at the time).....
Had the super easy power steering and you could easily fit 4 high school students in the back and 3 in the front (don't get the wrong idea folks, I was in High School at the time).....
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12-16-2007, 04:38 PM
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And that's probably why they don't make a convertible truck. Don't think there is anyway to make it safe in a rollover. Maybe with a B-pillar there in the back, but I'm sure that would look strange like the PT cruiser, but it would be safer then nothing.
12-16-2007, 07:55 PM
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RE: Who's waiting for the manual?
One thing I just find out on this truck from my friend is that the sunroof never cracked.....probably because it was below flush with the metal.
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