Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
02-21-2008, 12:56 PM
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Well said Bootcamp, my sentiments exactly. Either join in and have the memories or live vicariously through the joy and excitment of others. I will be one who will be living it as I have for all these last 35 years. A torch bearer so to speak. I have paid for it in MPG no doubt. But a 440 is a nice daily driver and exxon does need the support
All kidding aside, this is the way I like it and I do thank all those who drive the gas sippers that make my daily commute so much fun as well as possible.
All kidding aside, this is the way I like it and I do thank all those who drive the gas sippers that make my daily commute so much fun as well as possible.
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
To respond to this comparison, I'm going to restate what I said in another thread:
I have never, ever seen a comparison where the GT got 4.9 secs nor 5.0 secs either. The absolute fastest I've read the GT go is 5.1 secs and that is with a manual. The 4.9 secs for a GT is a total lie/pipe dream. The SXT is pretty much just a trimming package, once again they are going to just offer the 3.5L and drop the 2.7L (thank goodness) in the SE; therefore, it would be illogical to compare the SXT to the GT unless you are referring to the other options. Also something to think about, before long the Mustang is going to be replaced with a new model and I would bet that some of the pricing advantage will disappear with it. The current GT is plenty more expensive than the old GT was (granted it is faster due to a more powerful engine). The true comparison will come when they RIGHTFULLY compare the SRT-8 to the GT500 when BOTH will have manuals. The R/T will be comparable to the GT. Does anyone remember the "Bullitt Rematch" comparison that I believe Motor Trend did when the Charger first hit the market? There was a .4 sec difference between the two in favor of the Mustang, but now the 5.7L will have at least a 30hp & 14 ft-lbs of tq boost with the added advantage of now having a more consistent power band with VCT, which the Mus
As for the debate about the GT vs. SRT, I already commented that comparison is a completely illogical comparison. One of the biggest flaws in that comparison is that they are comparing an automatic SRT to a manual GT. I know that the 2008 does not have a manual yet, but the fact of the matter is the GT is not limited to a manual; therefore, you compare apples to apples in transmission offerings. The tests of the GT I have seen with the automatic places the GT acceleration times at around 5.2-5.4 secs in 0-60. For the sake of using averages in this comparison, lets look say its 5.3 secs for an automatic. Now let's compare the top speeds for a minute Challenger: 170+ vs. 148-150, the Challenger outclasses the GT in this category. Let's see if the GT500 is more closely comparable. The GT500 accelerates 0-60 in 4.5-4.7 secs and the top speed is around 155-157. If again we want to average things, we will say 4.6 secs. Now between the two the Challenger is almost equally between the two in acceleration times having a margin of .3-4secs on it; however, the fact of the matter is the Challenger's top speed is undeniably faster than the GT and still faster than the manual only GT500 (due to being electronically limited) and between the two it is still closer to the Mustang when you use the "official" numbers Chrysler has given. Then when you compare how the other SRT-8s have done (which are heavier and less aerodynamic), they do 0-60 runs in 4.7-4.9 secs. 4.7-4.9 secs is much closer to 4.5-4.7 than it is to 5.2-5.4. The Challenger should not be compared to a less powerful model that it is undeniably faster than just so then GT owns can argue "bang-for-your-buck," when the simple fact is that a GT owner can use the same argument to a GT500 owner. A GT owner could easily modify their GT to beat the daylights out of the GT500 and still have money leftover for gas for the next five years. It is a slanted, bias comparison plain and simple. No credible media source would be foolish enough to compare claims against facts. That is our job that we don't charge people for. If they are charging people, they need to give a real comparison.
We will see how the Challenger really stacks up when it is in full production against the Mustang and Camaro, just don't be surprised when they have rigged comparisons(expect a lot of V6 matches with the others using manuals so then they can rip on the Challenger instead of comparing the models people are really interested in). The fact is the automotive media like everyother type of media in the world is very bias and they have their favorites just like we do.
We will see how the Challenger really stacks up when it is in full production against the Mustang and Camaro, just don't be surprised when they have rigged comparisons(expect a lot of V6 matches with the others using manuals so then they can rip on the Challenger instead of comparing the models people are really interested in). The fact is the automotive media like everyother type of media in the world is very bias and they have their favorites just like we do.
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
I'm looking at Road & Track (Feb 2007) right now (thank you deranged!), and in the Road Test Summary section it is showing 5.3 for 0-60 for the the Mustang GT.
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
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I'm looking at Road & Track (Feb 2007) right now (thank you deranged!), and in the Road Test Summary section it is showing 5.3 for 0-60 for the the Mustang GT.
I'm looking at Road & Track (Feb 2007) right now (thank you deranged!), and in the Road Test Summary section it is showing 5.3 for 0-60 for the the Mustang GT.
Not that anybody would call a 5.3-sec. blast to 60 mph slow. It isn't. It's just that in this hallowed group of pricier iron, the GT, by comparison, seems a bit docile.
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
How u doin'?
Head-to-Head Comparison: Shelby GT500 Mustang vs. Challenger SRT8
Last week I pitted the Mustang GT against the Challenger SRT8. This "Basic" Mustang vs. "Performance" Challenger comparison was designed to see if the most basic of V8 Mustangs can compete with what Dodge calls the "Performance" Challenger. After all, a lot of people say the Challenger will hurt Mustang sales, so I wanted to see what impact, if any, the SRT8 would have on the base 4.6L Mustang. In the end, the GT was able to keep up with the SRT8 in the numbers game. It was also cheaper and achieved better gas mileage. That's a given. It's a basic model and the SRT8 is a performance model vehicle. What really surprised me, though, was the performance comparison. I thought the SRT8 would boast superior performance numbers against a basic V8 Mustang. It didn't.
[quote]ORIGINAL: RLSH700
To respond to this comparison, I'm going to restate what I said in another thread:
I have never, ever seen a comparison where the GT got 4.9 secs nor 5.0 secs either. The absolute fastest I've read the GT go is 5.1 secs and that is with a manual. The 4.9 secs for a GT is a total lie/pipe dream. The SXT is pretty much just a trimming package, once again they are going to just offer the 3.5L and drop the 2.7L (thank goodness) in the
Head-to-Head Comparison: Shelby GT500 Mustang vs. Challenger SRT8
Last week I pitted the Mustang GT against the Challenger SRT8. This "Basic" Mustang vs. "Performance" Challenger comparison was designed to see if the most basic of V8 Mustangs can compete with what Dodge calls the "Performance" Challenger. After all, a lot of people say the Challenger will hurt Mustang sales, so I wanted to see what impact, if any, the SRT8 would have on the base 4.6L Mustang. In the end, the GT was able to keep up with the SRT8 in the numbers game. It was also cheaper and achieved better gas mileage. That's a given. It's a basic model and the SRT8 is a performance model vehicle. What really surprised me, though, was the performance comparison. I thought the SRT8 would boast superior performance numbers against a basic V8 Mustang. It didn't.
[quote]ORIGINAL: RLSH700
To respond to this comparison, I'm going to restate what I said in another thread:
As for the debate about the GT vs. SRT, I already commented that comparison is a completely illogical comparison. One of the biggest flaws in that comparison is that they are comparing an automatic SRT to a manual GT. I know that the 2008 does not have a manual yet, but the fact of the matter is the GT is not limited to a manual; therefore, you compare apples to apples in transmission offerings. The tests of the GT I have seen with the automatic places the GT acceleration times at around 5.2-5.4 secs in 0-60. For the sake of using averages in this comparison, lets look say its 5.3 secs for an automatic. Now let's compare the top speeds for a minute Challenger: 170+ vs. 148-150, the Challenger outclasses the GT in this category. Let's see if the GT500 is more closely comparable. The GT500 accelerates 0-60 in 4.5-4.7 secs and the top speed is around 155-157. If again we want to average things, we will say 4.6 secs. Now between the two the Challenger is almost equally between the two in acceleration times having a margin of .3-4secs on it; however, the fact of the matter is the Challenger's top speed is undeniably faster than the GT and still faster than the manual only GT500 (due to being electronically limited) and between the two it is still closer to the Mustang when you use the "official" numbers Chrysler has given. Then when you compare how the other SRT-8s have done (which are heavier and less aerodynamic), they do 0-60 runs in 4.7-4.9 secs. 4.7-4.9 secs is much closer to 4.5-4.7 than it is to 5.2-5.4. The Challenger should not be compared to a less powerful model that it is undeniably faster than just so then GT owns can argue "bang-for-your-buck," when the simple fact is that a GT owner can use the same argument to a GT500 owner. A GT owner could easily modify their GT to beat the daylights out of the GT500 and still have money leftover for gas for the next five years. It is a slanted, bias comparison plain and simple. No credible media source would be foolish enough to compare claims against facts. That is our job that we don't charge people for. If they are charging people, they need to give a real comparison.
We will see how the Challenger really stacks up when it is in full production against the Mustang and Camaro, just don't be surprised when they have rigged comparisons(expect a lot of V6 matches with the others using manuals so then they can rip on the Challenger instead of comparing the models people are really interested in). The fact is the automotive media like everyother type of media in the world is very bias and they have their favorites just like we do.
We will see how the Challenger really stacks up when it is in full production against the Mustang and Camaro, just don't be surprised when they have rigged comparisons(expect a lot of V6 matches with the others using manuals so then they can rip on the Challenger instead of comparing the models people are really interested in). The fact is the automotive media like everyother type of media in the world is very bias and they have their favorites just like we do.
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
HELLO PUPPET!
hey albeeno it diddnt post superior numbers but guess what, it beat it, just like you said OUT OF THE BOX.
so keep the good work up ill be waiting to counter attack at any moment.
you cant win albeeno ....NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
hey albeeno it diddnt post superior numbers but guess what, it beat it, just like you said OUT OF THE BOX.
so keep the good work up ill be waiting to counter attack at any moment.
you cant win albeeno ....NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
OH BY THE WAY , THAT COMPARISON is done not on the track but by guesses on the numbers since they havent taken the challenger to the track. so another loss for the ford fanboys.
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
ORIGINAL: Albeeno
How u doin'?
Head-to-Head Comparison: Shelby GT500 Mustang vs. Challenger SRT8
Last week I pitted the Mustang GT against the Challenger SRT8. This "Basic" Mustang vs. "Performance" Challenger comparison was designed to see if the most basic of V8 Mustangs can compete with what Dodge calls the "Performance" Challenger. After all, a lot of people say the Challenger will hurt Mustang sales, so I wanted to see what impact, if any, the SRT8 would have on the base 4.6L Mustang. In the end, the GT was able to keep up with the SRT8 in the numbers game. It was also cheaper and achieved better gas mileage. That's a given. It's a basic model and the SRT8 is a performance model vehicle. What really surprised me, though, was the performance comparison. I thought the SRT8 would boast superior performance numbers against a basic V8 Mustang. It didn't.
How u doin'?
Head-to-Head Comparison: Shelby GT500 Mustang vs. Challenger SRT8
Last week I pitted the Mustang GT against the Challenger SRT8. This "Basic" Mustang vs. "Performance" Challenger comparison was designed to see if the most basic of V8 Mustangs can compete with what Dodge calls the "Performance" Challenger. After all, a lot of people say the Challenger will hurt Mustang sales, so I wanted to see what impact, if any, the SRT8 would have on the base 4.6L Mustang. In the end, the GT was able to keep up with the SRT8 in the numbers game. It was also cheaper and achieved better gas mileage. That's a given. It's a basic model and the SRT8 is a performance model vehicle. What really surprised me, though, was the performance comparison. I thought the SRT8 would boast superior performance numbers against a basic V8 Mustang. It didn't.
The fact of the matter is the GT500 is not that much better than the GT, so you could also use that argument in the case of the GT vs. the GT500. The Challenger SRT-8 is going to take some sales from the GT500 thanks to the fact that it is a bit cheaper and provides similar performance and a higher top speed. Again, this comparison was not based off of REAL results, it was a comparison done by a bunch of guys who were probably drunk at the time and needed something to argue about. It's entirely irrelevant.
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
That's the clearest way I've heard it put. I guess at the end of the day the camaro has the best shot at coming out and beating the gt500 and the srt8 since for whatever reason ford and dodge couldn't eek out more performance above the GT and R/T models. Why is it that the difference in power and price between the V6 to the R/T is more balanced than the price between R/T and SRT? Is it just that it becomes harder to squeeze performance out at that level?
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RE: Head-to-Head Comparison: 2008 Ford Mustang GT vs. 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8
I think the price difference between the 6 and 8 is smaller than the 8 to performance 8, just because most people don't customize their vehicle to get the extra push or hp but they'll pay more because they know what their getting. It's like cornering the market really. Why pay a boat load for a gt500 when you can just spend 7grand for a super-charger and you have one. Because people think it's some kind of hassle or risk, if you ask me. The auto industry brain-washes people.