08 challenger srt8 or 09 nissan gt-r
ORIGINAL: BootCamp
Isn't that basically what we're getting with the '08 - '09 Challenger?
Sorry, but regardless of the performance disparity, I STILL haven't seen anything that's ever been called a "classic/antique" Japanese car.
20 years from now, my kids will have a classic American Muscle Car to share and enjoy (if I'm not still around) when I buy my Challenger this summer and leave it to them.
20 years from now, the GT-R will be old, rusty, and impossible to get parts for - not to mention it won't be worth a bucket of fertilizer.
Just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
ORIGINAL: mac
I for one have always enjoyed old cars and always thought if we could reproduce the shell of an older car with the modern technology, that would be the way to go.
I for one have always enjoyed old cars and always thought if we could reproduce the shell of an older car with the modern technology, that would be the way to go.
Sorry, but regardless of the performance disparity, I STILL haven't seen anything that's ever been called a "classic/antique" Japanese car.
20 years from now, my kids will have a classic American Muscle Car to share and enjoy (if I'm not still around) when I buy my Challenger this summer and leave it to them.
20 years from now, the GT-R will be old, rusty, and impossible to get parts for - not to mention it won't be worth a bucket of fertilizer.
Just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
That is true, I have not seen a lot of restored Datsun 280Z cars.
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For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
I don't think the GT-R is going to lose much value. It's a low production, high end sports car. The only Challengers I see being big collectors items 30 years down the road are these limited production 2008's. When it's a full production vehicle, I would see the SRT's retaining their value much better than any of the other trims, but not as well as the first 2008's.
Yeah, this goes back to Jeremiah 29:11's thread about value/investment.
I'm getting a Challenger because it's what I want. I don't need the car (my Cruiser looks and runs fine - '01 LTD with 52K miles on it). I want it. It holds a value for me, whether that translates to an intrinsic or investment value or not.
I'm getting a Challenger because it's what I want. I don't need the car (my Cruiser looks and runs fine - '01 LTD with 52K miles on it). I want it. It holds a value for me, whether that translates to an intrinsic or investment value or not.
while it has been over 20 years since I rode in a Nissan Skyline(as they are called in Japan) while stationed in Okinawa, back then they were one bad freakin' car. This new version coming to the US after a long history in Japan will be everything it promises to be, but I'm still just a die hard Mopar nut who can't imagine owning somthing other than the Challenger. With a '93 Dakota as my daily driver and my wife in an '04 Durango with a '97 LHS before that, I'm committed to building better American cars.
if money is not an issue.... I'd get both!
but seriously, if I could get only a GT-R OR a Challenger... I'd probably go with the GT-R. If it doesn't put a smile on your face you can always sell it and get a Challenger next year when the 6 sp manuals are available.
but seriously, if I could get only a GT-R OR a Challenger... I'd probably go with the GT-R. If it doesn't put a smile on your face you can always sell it and get a Challenger next year when the 6 sp manuals are available.
I would, in this case, go with your emotions. You buy a car like a Challenger to satisfy the man-car connection that begins deep in your gut and makes you smile broadly as the rise and fall of pistons synchronize with your heartbeat. It's not about shaving 1/2 of a tenth of a second off the quarter mile and who can corner without knocking over that last orange cone. Both cars are made to perform with power and handling.
The style and stance of the Challenger unapologetically speaks to the masculine within us. The GT-R looks like they hid another car under the hood. When I look at it the first thing that comes to mind is confusion.
My 2 cents.
The style and stance of the Challenger unapologetically speaks to the masculine within us. The GT-R looks like they hid another car under the hood. When I look at it the first thing that comes to mind is confusion.
My 2 cents.
Nicely stated Awsure. With you on that.
BC/Jeremiah, you guys are right with one caveat. I have on rare occasion, seen some cherry restores of the Datsun (man, saying that brand harkens me back to my toughskins days, anyone who had to wear those teflon kneed beauties will empathize) 240 z's.
They were nice.
Now, will an Asian car ever hold a candle to the pure Americana and Heritage in a North America produced/designed car...imnsho no. Again, it's all about what you're looking to do.
BC/Jeremiah, you guys are right with one caveat. I have on rare occasion, seen some cherry restores of the Datsun (man, saying that brand harkens me back to my toughskins days, anyone who had to wear those teflon kneed beauties will empathize) 240 z's.
They were nice.
Now, will an Asian car ever hold a candle to the pure Americana and Heritage in a North America produced/designed car...imnsho no. Again, it's all about what you're looking to do.
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