no not that movie it was a made for tv movie with dennis hopper i think it was called last ride

 

MrKrisSullivan, please don't post three times in a row, we have a rule about double posting. If you want to add a point to a post when you already were the last person who posted, please click the edit button instead.

Now on to your point about not seeing the Charger under 5 secs. I'm going to provide you with multiple links demonstrating that this is possible with LX based sedans. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...c_srt8_feature
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...srt8_road_test
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...63_amg_feature
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...e+page-11.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1

There are other articles from these outlets that I have read before, but the problem is their sites are kind of tricky and I don't think they have all of their old articles listed on the site.

I ignore Edmunds because they tend to get much slower results more often than not, plus I still don't consider them to be a true automotive outlet on the scale of MT, C&D, and R&T. Their writing style as well demonstrates a bias worse than the other outlets, plus they practically plagiarize on some of their "jokes" and the sad part is they aren't even funny.

The interior is of good quality on the GTO, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I for one prefer the SRT's interior to the GTOs. A person is not silly if they prefer one or the other, it is a matter of taste and opinion, just as it is my opinion that the GTO is very lacking in its exterior styling. There isn't a right or wrong in this situation, it is simply a matter of taste. If the GTO is what you want, then go ahead and get one and I'm sure you will be happy with your experience, but just understand that the GTO will probably not be faster than a Challenger.

 

that is defenitly not what the gto looks like the front end of a stock gto looks like a grand am

 

And im not using any articles...im speaking from the point of rule world testing. while there hasnt been much done on the challenger, ive seen plenty of gtos on the track, and we have one member here who spoke about his ls2 auto gto...i think that he ran 13.60s stock, and ive seen similar cars in excellent conditions get into the lower 12s.. the SLOWEST srt8 sedan ive seen in person ran 13.40s...granted, a well driven manual ls2 gto will be faster, but you make it sound like the GTO is proven to be leaps and bounds faster than the 6.1 vehicles, and that is only true in comparison to the jeep.

 

And that is even questionable considering that the fastest time I have read in the 0-60 stand point in tests has been the GC SRT-8 (this is most likely due to having AWD and shorter gearing). On top of this, the Challenger will have the TR-6060, which is an upgraded T-56 (which is what the GTO used). The automotive press has said that it is a big improvement in easier use with the new Viper over the old T-56. Getting good times should be easier on the Challenger.

 

Jeremiah...I for one do like both the Challenger / 70's Muscle Car style and the general Pontiac Grand Am / Grand Prix / GTO / G8 style. I've had a Grand Am GT for the last 8 years and I plan to get a Challenger next, however I am also considering the G8 seriously. I like each of the styles for what each represents. I can't say I really like one over the other. The muscle car has more tradition and that plays into style, but those Dodge's sure are behemoths on the road. A G8 is the size of a Charger, but doesn't look it to me. I would think there are many others out there that like both styles. I'm not sure how old you are, but it might be a generational thing. I'm 28.

 

Back to topic

I wonder about buying an SE with a 5.7, stripped of options, buy a chrome flip top fuel door, the dual exhaust valence and dual exhausts and make a RT/SE..no spoiler, reduced options = reduced weight, one of a kind factory build?????

Steve

 

Steve, would that be like a VSE (if SE is for special edition the v would be "Very" Special Edition")

The econo-street fighter...man, that'd be sweet.

Or heck, offer a limited edition 5.7 in an Avenger (after making it look better StormTrooper would be fine)...now you're talking!

 

what options would you not get?

the problem is that you really cant buy a "Stripper car" anymore. when my dad worked for dodge in the 60s and 70s, he remembers cars coming in that were truly stripper cars..no back seat..no trunk linings.no radios, etc...but now, the "options" that you can get on the more powerful cars, which can be excluded on the base models arent enough weight to be worth the trouble.

 

exactly what options are you gonna get taken out answer is there are none cause just about everything is standard