chuck

Hello fellow Challenger fans!

I'm seriously looking to get the Challenger, and the SE has nice gas mileage and reasonable pricing. However, I've run into several conflicting option listings for the car on the Dodge site in addition to several others. Options of particular interest are:

Compass
Outside temperature
Tire pressure monitoring
Oil change indicator

There seems to be a difference between:
Tire Pressure Monitoring Warning Lamp
Tire Pressure Monitoring Display

My assumption is the first only tells you if the pressure is low but doesn't specify where, and the second tells you the pressure of all four tires and which one is getting low

I'm also confused as to the difference between:
Electronic Vehicle Information Center
Electronics Convenience Group

From what I've gotten off the Dodge site is the ECG contains the EVIC, but I'm not sure if one or both have the compass, outside temperature, oil change warning (GM calls this the Oil Life Monitoring System) and tire pressure monitoring.

Any help with clearing up what options above are available on the SE would be most appreciated!

RUBBERBNDMAN

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RoswellGrey

You know, Chuck, I'm STILL trying to figure out what all is what on my SE. The owner's manual is only about 6,000 pages long and I'm like on Page 32. Fortunately, I finally figured out how to set the stations on the radio.

mopar2ya

Roswell... that and knowing where to put the gas should keep you good for a while...

chuck

Hey Roswell,

I can feel your pain. What option packages did you get? Do you have a compass and outsite temp indicator? How about tire pressure reading? All Challengers should have some kind of electronic display. The website says something about 182 different readouts. When you turn the key and all the lights go on, is there one that says "change engine oil" or something similar? Is your head exploding yet? Mine sure is!

Chuck

RoswellGrey

Well, Chuck, I got the absolute base package: the famous $21,995. The only things I ordered extra were spare tire, fog lamps, SRT-R/T-style gas cap and a smoker's package. (I haven't smoked in the car and don't plan to, but I want a cigarette lighter nonetheless. One never knows when one might have to escape from kidnappers by burning them.)

At the time I ordered mine (in June), the info my salesman had wasn't clear at all about what exactly was available on the SE. He couldn't even order the spare tire or the smoker's package from the factory (apparently they now can be). The fog lights were part of a package that appeared to feature upgrades mainly to the sound system, and since I wasn't planning on using the car as a disco, I decided to simply have the dealership put the fog lights on. The gas cap, of course, isn't available on the SE but is orderable as a separate item.

When the car came in Monday, the gas cap hadn't arrived yet and the salesman had forgot to order a spare tire. Also, they had determined that a part number wasn't yet listed the conventional way for the fog lamps, but they could obtain it by going through the complete inventory of a stock R/T. Hence, everything is supposed to be ready to put on the car by Friday.

I was scan-reading the part of the owner's manual relating to the digital readouts last night while trying to figure out how to set the radio. I've got to go back and read it in detail then figure out exactly what is on the car. Since it rained lightly last evening while we had the car out, I had to waste time today cleaning it off and then figuring out how to get my iPod to work with it. That part was fairly easy and it sounds great.

Yeah, my head is exploding, too. But all the looks, comments, questions and pictures that get taken of the car make it all worth it.

SKiDs33t

Welcome to the forum Chuck.

Ive studied the Dodge website and my 2009 Buyers guide and have come up with the following.

The Electronics Convenience Group (ECG) is only available on the R/T. The SRT, of course, gets the items in the ECG as standard equipment. The SE and base R/T do not have an Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC) and thus only have the tire pressure warning lamp (which as you said lights up when a tire is low) and the Oil Change indicator lamp. The Compass/Outside Temperature, Tire Pressure Monitoring, are displayed on the EVIC and are also standard on SRT and part of ECG on R/T, but unavailable on the SE. Exclusive to the SRT are the Performance Pages, which are also displayed on the EVIC.

There you go, I hope this helps you.

RoswellGrey

Thank you, Skids. That save me a lot of reading, too.

BLK 6050

Since the SE doesn't have the big chrome gas door......all owners of SEs just need to follow Bill Cosby's example "Pour the gas on top and hope it finds it's way to the gas tank".......
Remember him talking about how his new car had dual everything and was faster than Steve McQueen's car!
(from one of his old <1960's?> routines) *just kidding
Have you noticed how the first half of the owners manual covers seat belts, airbags, etc.....thank you
lawyers. Wife learned how to work the radio, and adjust the mirrors......shes ready to go...........

SKiDs33t

Id still like to get my hands on an 09 R/T or SRT owners manual. Come on Dodge, post the PDF already!