What is the expected price for the Challenger?
#121
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
We have spy shots, insider information, magazine articles, press releases, news articles, rhumors ........ but no facts, because we have no production cars to physically put our hands on. Until it reaches full production and the cars are available for sale to the public and we can measure wheelbase, legroom, weigh them, etc., ALL of our threads about the Challenger are sheer speculation based on the tid-bits Chrysler LLC has given us (with an eyedropper), and any other sources we "personally" put any stock in.
We have talked about price for the last 18 months and we know nothing at all. Let's just say, that we think it might cost between $30K to $50k for various versions and for simplicity sake let's not talk about the pricing gouging that will go on initially. Okay, so say that is a $20K delta so that means you have 20 choices in the prices range. That is a lot of choices for for all the different versions of a Challenger that we do not even know yet. To me that is a waste of time, but you may enjoy yearself with that. There are just to many variables on the price and versions of the car.
What if they told you that they had 20 versions of the body style that they were going to choose from and you had no idea what they were thinking they might do. I would give up and go look at another car that I know I for sure liked the looks of.
I would much rather know that we are going to have a V-6, 5.7L, 6.1L, 6.4L with automatic and manual that were for sure going to be done. Now with that knowledge
we can better extrapolate prices. Right now we know nothing. I have oversimplified all of the different variables on this car but I think you know what I am trying to say.
Lets get more data, then let's talk price.
I would hope that we know more at SEMA but before Chicago about the various versions they will do, but I am not holding my breath because for the last couple of years
that have been as secretive as the CIA.
Honestly, I think most of the younger crowd on this forum will not be able to get a 1st year Challenger because it will be overpriced and that is sad.
They only way most they will get one is in the 2nd year with a V-6. Keep in mind I am talking about affording one by living within their means.
ie. I have heard several younger people that own a VIPER but don't own anything else......that is even sadder.
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For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
#122
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
I have heard several younger people that own a VIPER but don't own anything else......that is even sadder.
#123
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
What I was trying to say is that I have seen young married couples and the guy owns a VIPER and the couples suffers trying to make ends
meet because of it. In other words the VIPER is the most important thing to him and he has to have it and can't afford anything else for him or his wife.
What I was trying to say is that I have seen young married couples and the guy owns a VIPER and the couples suffers trying to make ends
meet because of it. In other words the VIPER is the most important thing to him and he has to have it and can't afford anything else for him or his wife.
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For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
#124
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
No, when I was at that point, I was strictly on my own. I couldn't afford anything else for myself, let alone anyone else. But I still had a fine time with the Challenger.
#125
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
Unless an insider posts some reliable tips on pricing, trying to guess where Dodge will set the price on this car is tough (given what we know).
Kinda technical, but here's why I think guessing correctly is difficult... Obviously, Dodge's objective is to maximize profits from the car. Dodge will generally select one of two basic pricing strategies... (1) low price (high volume sales), or (2) high price (low volume sales). They will pick the staregy that gives them the highest return on their investment. Selecting the right strategy takes into consideration...price, demand for the car, per unit costs, per unit profit margins and other bean-counter variables. It's tough to come up with the right mix of variables that will put the most money in the bank. And generally, they only get one chance to get it right![:-]
From the speculations I've read on this thread, my guess is we are in the right ballpark. They already got the low-volume high-margin Viper. I don't think it's in the Vet market. It's better than the Charger (but different). I think they will be swimming in the same pool with the Mustang and Camaro. I think the three of them will be going at it on price (after the novelty/gouging of the Challenger wears off). But again, really tough to speculate without some reliable tips.
Kinda technical, but here's why I think guessing correctly is difficult... Obviously, Dodge's objective is to maximize profits from the car. Dodge will generally select one of two basic pricing strategies... (1) low price (high volume sales), or (2) high price (low volume sales). They will pick the staregy that gives them the highest return on their investment. Selecting the right strategy takes into consideration...price, demand for the car, per unit costs, per unit profit margins and other bean-counter variables. It's tough to come up with the right mix of variables that will put the most money in the bank. And generally, they only get one chance to get it right![:-]
From the speculations I've read on this thread, my guess is we are in the right ballpark. They already got the low-volume high-margin Viper. I don't think it's in the Vet market. It's better than the Charger (but different). I think they will be swimming in the same pool with the Mustang and Camaro. I think the three of them will be going at it on price (after the novelty/gouging of the Challenger wears off). But again, really tough to speculate without some reliable tips.
#126
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
ORIGINAL: 1 Bad Mirada
in red, amen!
as for the comments in blue, i think that with the initial markups, we very well may see challengers going for that, which is ridiclous...but it happened with the 40,000 GT500, and i would go so far as to say that the release of the challenger is bigger news than the release of the GT500.
comments in green...with the way that the labor unions are running every business in this country into the ground, the eventual solution to keep up with the less expensive and often more reliable overseas automakers will be a huge american firm, comprised of the big 3 working together. either that, or we will see things like nissan buying GM, toyota buying chrysler, etc...i dont know who woudl want ford...
ORIGINAL: davecpa
Dude you are right it was a joke. Yes i know i should keep my day job. I just dont take anything i read on this site to serious. Like my mama always said "The proof is in the pudding"... ie we shall all know in about 6 months what the price really is, unitl then i am not worried at all about it. But i do know we will look back at Mr. Wallstreets $70k number and say"what was he smoking?" I also think that if Cerberus does not turn the company around they will sell it to another car company such as Ford... omg... then they can make chally-stang auto
ORIGINAL: awsure
Huh? The company sold for this price because that's all it's worth. As painful as it is to admit Daimler dumped a lagging business unit because they had no confidence left in it. The real cost to Cerberus is not the purchase price but the cost to turn the ship around. They will FAR outspend that 7B over the next couple years.
I am obviously not picking up on the facetious tone of your post cause it's late & I am getting sleepy.
Huh? The company sold for this price because that's all it's worth. As painful as it is to admit Daimler dumped a lagging business unit because they had no confidence left in it. The real cost to Cerberus is not the purchase price but the cost to turn the ship around. They will FAR outspend that 7B over the next couple years.
I am obviously not picking up on the facetious tone of your post cause it's late & I am getting sleepy.
as for the comments in blue, i think that with the initial markups, we very well may see challengers going for that, which is ridiclous...but it happened with the 40,000 GT500, and i would go so far as to say that the release of the challenger is bigger news than the release of the GT500.
comments in green...with the way that the labor unions are running every business in this country into the ground, the eventual solution to keep up with the less expensive and often more reliable overseas automakers will be a huge american firm, comprised of the big 3 working together. either that, or we will see things like nissan buying GM, toyota buying chrysler, etc...i dont know who woudl want ford...
#127
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
ORIGINAL: davecpa
I am impressed with the blue and green font.
ORIGINAL: 1 Bad Mirada
in red, amen!
as for the comments in blue, i think that with the initial markups, we very well may see challengers going for that, which is ridiclous...but it happened with the 40,000 GT500, and i would go so far as to say that the release of the challenger is bigger news than the release of the GT500.
comments in green...with the way that the labor unions are running every business in this country into the ground, the eventual solution to keep up with the less expensive and often more reliable overseas automakers will be a huge american firm, comprised of the big 3 working together. either that, or we will see things like nissan buying GM, toyota buying chrysler, etc...i dont know who woudl want ford...
ORIGINAL: davecpa
Dude you are right it was a joke. Yes i know i should keep my day job. I just dont take anything i read on this site to serious. Like my mama always said "The proof is in the pudding"... ie we shall all know in about 6 months what the price really is, unitl then i am not worried at all about it. But i do know we will look back at Mr. Wallstreets $70k number and say"what was he smoking?" I also think that if Cerberus does not turn the company around they will sell it to another car company such as Ford... omg... then they can make chally-stang auto
ORIGINAL: awsure
Huh? The company sold for this price because that's all it's worth. As painful as it is to admit Daimler dumped a lagging business unit because they had no confidence left in it. The real cost to Cerberus is not the purchase price but the cost to turn the ship around. They will FAR outspend that 7B over the next couple years.
I am obviously not picking up on the facetious tone of your post cause it's late & I am getting sleepy.
Huh? The company sold for this price because that's all it's worth. As painful as it is to admit Daimler dumped a lagging business unit because they had no confidence left in it. The real cost to Cerberus is not the purchase price but the cost to turn the ship around. They will FAR outspend that 7B over the next couple years.
I am obviously not picking up on the facetious tone of your post cause it's late & I am getting sleepy.
as for the comments in blue, i think that with the initial markups, we very well may see challengers going for that, which is ridiclous...but it happened with the 40,000 GT500, and i would go so far as to say that the release of the challenger is bigger news than the release of the GT500.
comments in green...with the way that the labor unions are running every business in this country into the ground, the eventual solution to keep up with the less expensive and often more reliable overseas automakers will be a huge american firm, comprised of the big 3 working together. either that, or we will see things like nissan buying GM, toyota buying chrysler, etc...i dont know who woudl want ford...
__________________
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
#129
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
Sorry to interject and throw this out there,
But isn't there rumor of being a retro Pontiac GTO in '09 or something?
I only bring that up because I'm curious if it would have an impact in the price of the Challenger...
But isn't there rumor of being a retro Pontiac GTO in '09 or something?
I only bring that up because I'm curious if it would have an impact in the price of the Challenger...
#130
RE: What is the expected price for the Challenger?
ORIGINAL: ericisbacchus
Sorry to interject and throw this out there,
But isn't there rumor of being a retro Pontiac GTO in '09 or something?
I only bring that up because I'm curious if it would have an impact in the price of the Challenger...
Sorry to interject and throw this out there,
But isn't there rumor of being a retro Pontiac GTO in '09 or something?
I only bring that up because I'm curious if it would have an impact in the price of the Challenger...
Yes i think it would have an impact on prices. But it looks so far they are taking the camaro and painting it [color=#660099][size=5]blue.
[color=#003333][size=3]And probably one of our best sources on price was dodge sales.. but since he got reamed on here i have not seen him back. But i have reconsidered my comment to wallstreet and i actually agree with him.. someone will probably pay $70k for a challenger but as for myself. There is a plethora of one year old used vipers out there for around $60k.
The new GTO?----->[IMG]local://upfiles/714/3393A008CF2B43B5BB1407B9D0473704.jpg[/IMG]