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Old 01-24-2006 | 10:39 PM
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and what is your beater car? do you live somewhere with snow, as i am guessing that the solara doesnt see bad weather.
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No beater. The wife and I ride share her SUV. The Solara is a once a month maybe, car show, or once in awhile race car only. Not sure what it's status will be when I get my Challenger. If the daughter does well in college I may make it a gift to her.

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I was talking about production engines. I know what small displacement supercharged cars are capable of and it's amazing. I'm just saying from a production stand point DCX would just be better off putting the 6.4 in the Challenger for the simple solution to the GT 500. Aftermarket, yeah it's going to be a free for all so to speak if you can afford it!
Old 01-25-2006 | 10:47 AM
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Man I hate to burst your bubble but I got a SC V6 that just plain eats V8 and they carry the displacement advantage..
That is no surprise, I'm well aware that there are smaller engines that are more powerful than some V8's.
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Sure you are always going to find V-6 engines faster than a V-8.

Everything else being equal......nothing compares to large displacment/forced induction engines.
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Old 01-27-2006 | 02:04 PM
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I was talking about production engines. I know what small displacement supercharged cars are capable of and it's amazing. I'm just saying from a production stand point DCX would just be better off putting the 6.4 in the Challenger for the simple solution to the GT 500. Aftermarket, yeah it's going to be a free for all so to speak if you can afford it!
Although, I agree that they should drop the 6.4L in the Challenger. Their is something they could do to the 6.1L that would offer just enough extra hp and torque that could defeat the GT500. If they add Dual-VVT they could boost it at least 20 hp and considering how close the two cars numbers already are, that might be all it needs not to mention that the Dual-VVT helps the engine offer a more consistent flow of hp and torque throughout the whole range. Another thing to think about is how long the GT500 is going to go before it breaks down. I have doubts that the GT500 will be trouble free. If GM can't make their 3.8L 12 valve OHV completely unaffected by a supercharger in terms of quality (NA the 3.8L is bulletproof) then how can Ford make their 5.4L 32 valve DOHC completely trouble free with a supercharger when the 5.4L hasn't had a perfect history in terms of quality.
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Old 01-27-2006 | 04:47 PM
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I was talking about production engines. I know what small displacement supercharged cars are capable of and it's amazing. I'm just saying from a production stand point DCX would just be better off putting the 6.4 in the Challenger for the simple solution to the GT 500. Aftermarket, yeah it's going to be a free for all so to speak if you can afford it!
Although, I agree that they should drop the 6.4L in the Challenger. Their is something they could do to the 6.1L that would offer just enough extra hp and torque that could defeat the GT500. If they add Dual-VVT they could boost it at least 20 hp and considering how close the two cars numbers already are, that might be all it needs not to mention that the Dual-VVT helps the engine offer a more consistent flow of hp and torque throughout the whole range. Another thing to think about is how long the GT500 is going to go before it breaks down. I have doubts that the GT500 will be trouble free. If GM can't make their 3.8L 12 valve OHV completely unaffected by a supercharger in terms of quality (NA the 3.8L is bulletproof) then how can Ford make their 5.4L 32 valve DOHC completely trouble free with a supercharger when the 5.4L hasn't had a perfect history in terms of quality.

I was just thinking simple solution, and as far as VVT, I don't know they will be willing to go to that expense. Remember that WE will be paying for any new bells and whistles. Existing technology is less expensive and would still blow the 500 in the weeds.
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I was talking about production engines. I know what small displacement supercharged cars are capable of and it's amazing. I'm just saying from a production stand point DCX would just be better off putting the 6.4 in the Challenger for the simple solution to the GT 500. Aftermarket, yeah it's going to be a free for all so to speak if you can afford it!
Although, I agree that they should drop the 6.4L in the Challenger. Their is something they could do to the 6.1L that would offer just enough extra hp and torque that could defeat the GT500. If they add Dual-VVT they could boost it at least 20 hp and considering how close the two cars numbers already are, that might be all it needs not to mention that the Dual-VVT helps the engine offer a more consistent flow of hp and torque throughout the whole range. Another thing to think about is how long the GT500 is going to go before it breaks down. I have doubts that the GT500 will be trouble free. If GM can't make their 3.8L 12 valve OHV completely unaffected by a supercharger in terms of quality (NA the 3.8L is bulletproof) then how can Ford make their 5.4L 32 valve DOHC completely trouble free with a supercharger when the 5.4L hasn't had a perfect history in terms of quality.

I was just thinking simple solution, and as far as VVT, I don't know they will be willing to go to that expense. Remember that WE will be paying for any new bells and whistles. Existing technology is less expensive and would still blow the 500 in the weeds.
Well, I was just trying to come up with some other ideas besides forced-air induction that would not have any compromises on reliability, if they do not offer the 6.4L engine.
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Old 01-30-2006 | 01:05 PM
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well, should my dreams of the new challenger become a reality, my first three mods, other than the exhaust and filter...

1. weight reduction
2. weight reduction
3. weight reduction
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