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Old 07-11-2007, 07:35 PM
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Very good enteries, I will try to catch up on the previous ones later and respond to this one. This is very important. I remember having the education on AIDS and many of the other classes, but I must have missed school when they passed out condoms. I fortuneatly went to a Christian High School that taught me to wait until marriage and I can tell you the difference between the students there and my public school counterparts. A lot more of my old classmates from the Christian High School have stable marriages with matches that appear to made over love instead of lust. My father was willing to answer my questions when I came to him and even though we don't have the most close relationship, his guidance always sticks. I followed my father's advice because he set an excellent example for me. He has been faithful to the same woman for 27 years and counting. What better example can I have?
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Yes, and you will be able to pass on those examples of your father and better ones of you to your children. The blessing will pass on from generation
to generation.

Without good father examples for kids, you get kids who get in gangs and that becomes their families and everything goes down hill from there.
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San Antonio Express-News, 7-13-07:

Promise Keepers rally aims to inspire

Web Posted: 07/12/2007 11:07 PM CDT

J. Michael Parker
Express-News Religion Writer

James Caraway can't wait for tonight's Promise Keepers rally, his seventh in as many years.
It has turned him on to his faith, made him more committed to serving his wife and encouraged him to become more involved in activities at his church.

"I've become aware of my responsibility as a Christian man, a businessman, a husband and a father," he said.

His wife, Sunny Caraway, said she was glad she suggested it.

"When he came home from Promise Keepers, I could tell he had been spending quality time with God," she said.

The nondenominational Protestant organization will kick off its two-day conference today.

It seeks to encourage men to become more committed to their Christian faith, more accountable to their wives and more active leaders in their families and churches.

On Thursday, organizers had sold 5,000 tickets but expect to sell many more today.

"We hope that men who attend will leave this conference with a new spirit of love through Jesus Christ and will take that love into their homes and workplaces to impact the entire community," said event director Patrick McKinney.

Mike Sobotker has never attended a Promise Keepers event and doesn't know what to expect.

"I didn't really know it existed," he said. "My wife went to a Women of Faith conference, which is like the women's equivalent of Promise Keepers, and she just couldn't stop talking about it. She said it was exhilarating, eye-opening and very moving."

Then Rodney Lewis, whose wife works with Sobotker's wife, invited him to tonight's rally, and he's eager to see what happens.

"It's good to have men of difference cultures coming together," Sobotker said.

Ten years ago, Promise Keepers was a phenomenon in evangelical Protestantism, uniting more than half a million men on Washington's National Mall.

The organization, founded by former University of Colorado football coach Bill McCartney, boasted a $70 million budget in 1997. Then it dropped its $60 stadium admission charge in order to attract more men. It also laid off virtually its entire paid staff of nearly 350. It reinstated the stadium fee in 2000.

The organization drew criticism from church leaders, feminists and others for everything from undermining the men's involvement in church life to teaching men to subjugate their wives to being a political organization under the guise of a religious movement.

But Mark Silk, director of the Greenberg Center for the Study of Religion and Public Life in Hartford, Conn., believes the concerns were overstated.

"The idea that this was an effort to establish total male dominance over women was an exaggerated concern among feminists," Silk said.

Linda Pritchard, history professor at Eastern Michigan University, said Promise Keepers comes out of the traditional evangelical concern about the health and primacy of the nuclear family.

"To the extent that Promise Keepers has informed men's responsibility for that, I think we all believe it's a healthy influence on society."

Pritchard said one very important way Promise Keepers could impact marriage and family life is to promote work against family violence.

"No group has really addressed this issue," she said. "Promise Keepers would be a good place to work on countering domestic violence."

Silk said the concern that the organization was a religious front for political activism stemmed from the support it received from such political activists as the Rev. Pat Robertson and James Dobson of Focus on the Family.

"But Promise Keepers has never been that political. It seems to fit more into the evangelical culture of small-group Bible study. Having gatherings in stadiums was a way to take it on the road and encourage male bonding and
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Your life will certainly change after attending one of those Promise Keeper events. I have been to many but the first one
was in Denton, Tx. in an outdoor metal stadium when a major storm hit and half the event got cancelled. But the message
delivered had turned my life around.

RoswellGrey, thanks for posting that and let me know if you wind up going. You will not regret it.

Seven Promises of a Promise Keeper

PROMISE 1

A Promise Keeper is committed to honoring Jesus Christ through worship, prayer and obedience to God's Word in the power of the Holy Spirit.

PROMISE 2
A Promise Keeper is committed to pursuing vital relationships with a few other men, understanding that he needs brothers to help him keep his promises.

PROMISE 3
A Promise Keeper is committed to practicing spiritual, moral, ethical, and sexual purity.

PROMISE 4
A Promise Keeper is committed to building strong marriages and families through love, protection and biblical values.

PROMISE 5
A Promise Keeper is committed to supporting the mission of his church by honoring and praying for his pastor, and by actively giving his time and resources.

PROMISE 6
A Promise Keeper is committed to reaching beyond any racial and denominational barriers to demonstrate the power of biblical unity.

PROMISE 7
A Promise Keeper is committed to influencing his world, being obedient to the Great Commandment (see Mark 12:30-31) and the Great Commission (see Matthew 28:19-20).

Mark 12:30-31
Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. (NIV)

Matthew 28:19-20
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. (NIV)

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Actually, Jeremiah, I'm not going -- I have to work. I just figured you and others would be interested in our coverage. I'll supply whatever else we print.
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San Antonio Express-News, 7-15-07:

Promise Keepers draws thousands

Web Posted: 07/14/2007 09:58 PM CDT

Sig Christenson
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The faithful descended on the AT&T Center from as far away as Tyler and Houston, most of them conservative middle-aged churchgoing white men with potbellies and a love for football.
They came for Promise Keepers 2007, a rally that had the feel of an old-fashioned tent revival and boys-only meeting in the backyard tree house — making it the perfect high-testosterone setting for sharing flatulence jokes and a dark secret or two.

"I don't think there's one day I haven't desired sex with another woman," comic Brad Stine told the audience, preaching on the never-ending war Promise Keepers wage over illicit sex. "I didn't say I did it. What I'm saying is the temptation is real."

The battle to become better husbands, fathers and Christians was joined Saturday as the nondenominational Promise Keepers wrapped up a two-day conference. The group, founded a decade ago by ex-University of Colorado football coach Bill McCartney, calls itself a "conference ministry" that hopes "to ignite and unite men to become passionate followers" of Christ.

Promise Keepers has its critics. The National Organization for Women says the group's call to take responsibility in the home is really a code word for dominating their wives. But one of the few women on hand this day, teacher Donna Tucker, 45, of San Antonio said, "Anywhere where they are going to encourage men to be good men and Christian men and love each other and love their wives and their children, I'm just for it."

Organizers said 6,000 men attended the rally, with viewers logging on to a Web broadcast in more than 20 countries. Like a number of people attending, Jeremy Medley, 30, of Tyler and a friend, Carlos Juarez, came with their church, and had a mission.

"I come here to learn how to be a better father, to be a better Christian, to learn how to be a better mentor and a friend," Medley explained. "God is here, there's no doubt about that."

Asked why a conference is needed to remind people of the obvious, retired Air Force Chief Master Sgt. Wallace Carroll, 44, of Cibolo said stress could sidetrack folks. He wasn't bothered to be among the relative handful of blacks at the gathering, saying, "In the Bible I don't think it says middle-aged and white or young and African American."

Many in the crowd watched a video in the darkened arena as Promise Keepers workers passed plastic yellow buckets to the crowd. The buckets were filled with greenbacks and pledge cards in short order.

Outside, a man on a cell phone told the other person on the line he was at church. But this sanctuary had a passing resemblance to a Barnes & Noble store. A sign just inside the facility proclaimed "Conference Recordings." One of them on a table full of CDs and DVDs was Promise Keepers' "Stand in the Gate — A Sacred Assembly."

It cost $59.

Books were on sale, "Better Dads, Stronger Sons," going for $12. A bumper sticker proclaimed, "I love my wife." On the group's Web site, 1997's "The Making of A Godly Man" best-of DVD set, sells for $135.

A core Promise Keepers theme is retaking the mantle of manhood, to be true Christian family men. Doing that, they say, requires them to band together. Standing with his 10-year-old son, Shane, Jon Estes, 39, of Lufkin said, "As men we can't do it alone. We have to find other people to help us."

Stine drove home the point by telling the audience that while he's always been faithful to his wife, men have been driven by sexual demons from the start.

"That's why the multibillion pornography industry isn't making money off of women," he commented. "We're the ones with the problem, and you cannot survive this one alone."



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Very good reading as always. I do so look forward to this each week, its good to be recharged after a week on this planet. Nothing but good things to read and to put in motion. Thanks again for your post each week.
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Very good reading as always. I do so look forward to this each week, its good to be recharged after a week on this planet. Nothing but good things to read and to put in motion. Thanks again for your post each week.
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True character is revealed not by what a man does when people are watching but by what he does when nobody is around.


Point Man – Week #11/The Last Chapter - A Bible study on a man leading his family based on the Steve Farrar book.

Last week we discussed “Telling your kids what you don’t want to tell them”. This lesson is our last lesson in the “Point Man” book and it is about being the "Rock and Role Model" for your family>

This lesson will be short and sweet. Guys, if you want to win the war on the family, you must do 2 things. You have to be the rock for your family and the role model for your family. You will be helping those you love most and spiritually contributing to the Kingdom of God. Being a rock means having a solid commitment to your wife, a willingness to be involved in your children’s lives, and having a heart for Jesus Christ.
This “rock” foundation needs to carry over into your careers and relationships you have with family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc. True success is not measured by your net worth but by your willingness to “But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.” (Matthew 6:33)

Being a “rock” is not easy if your father was not a rock. But you need to be the “rock” so your son will have an example and can emulate you when he becomes a dad. It is a rule of life that boys grow up to be like their fathers which can be bad or good. What do you want it to be? Obviously you want it to be good because nobody wants their children to make the same mistakes we did. You can make a conscious decision to become a rock and role model who will change your generational chain from a negative to a positive.
Your choice will affect your children and the generations in your family to come. Be the man who will make a difference in his family and change his family’s lives forever.
If you did not have a father who was after God’s own heart, then you can make Jesus Christ the Rock and Role model of your life and Jesus will help you with that.

Here are some powerful words Jesus spoke that will apply to those who want to lead their families:

Matthew 7:24-29 The Wise and Foolish Builders
"Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash."
When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were amazed at his teaching, because he taught as one who had authority, and not as their teachers of the law.


Be the Rock and Role model God wants you to be. God will support you and it is a tremendous privilege. If we are willing to become the “Point Man” in our families, we can count on God’s support, power, and blessings on our lives.

2 Chronicles 16:9 For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him.

Be the man whose heart is fully committed toward God and your life and your family will receive His blessings beyond measure.

Be the “Point Man” in the war against your family.

I am not sure what lesson I may come up with next. My son is graduating from school and we will be moving him from his dorm and I will be busy with that and family time over the next few weeks. I will keep you posted.

Have a great week and I will see you on the forum.
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I hope this is inspiring to some of you you and for some of you a wake up call?


Billy Graham is now 86 years old with Parkinson's disease.

In January 2000, leaders in Charlotte , North Carolina ,
invited their favorite son, Billy Graham, to a luncheon in
his honor.

Billy initially hesitated to accept the invitation because he
struggles with Parkinson's disease. But the Charlotte
leaders said, "We don't expect a major address. Just
come and let us honor you."
So he agreed.

After wonderful things were said about him, Dr. Graham
stepped to the rostrum, looked at the crowd, and said,
"I'm reminded today of Albert Einstein, the great physicist who
this month has been honored by Time magazine as the
Man of the Century. Einstein was once traveling from
Princeton on a train when the conductor came down the
aisle, punching the tickets of every passenger. When he
came to Einstein, Einstein reached in his vest pocket. He
couldn't find his ticket, so he reached in his trouser pockets.
It wasn't there, so he looked in his briefcase but couldn't find it.
Then he looked in the seat beside him.
He still couldn't find it.


The conductor said, "Dr. Einstein, I know who you are.
We all know who you are. I'm sure you bought a ticket.
Don't worry about it."
Einstein nodded appreciatively. The conductor continued
down the aisle punching tickets. As he was ready to
move to th e next car ,
he turned around and saw the great physicist down on his hands
and knees looking under his
seat for his ticket.


The conductor rushed back and said, "Dr. Ei nstein,
Dr. Einstein, don't worry, I know who you are. No problem.
You don't need a ticket.
I'm sure you bought one."


Einstein looked at him and said, "Young man, I too , know who I am.
What I don't know is where I'm going.'"


Having said that Billy Graham continued,
"See the suit I'm wearing? It's a brand new suit.
My wife, my children , and my grandchildren are telling me
I've gotten a little slovenly in
my old age. I used to be a bit more fastidious. So I went
out and bought a new suit for this luncheon and one more occasion.


You know what that occasion is? This is the suit in which
I'll be buried. But when you hear I'm dead, I don't want
you to immediately remember the suit I'm wearing.
I want you to remember this:


I not only know who I am .. I also know where I'm going."

Do you know where you are going?



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