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YES, I'M A BAD AMERICAN

by: George Carlin

MGDMike

Amen!

Justinec101

"I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to. "

"and I'm proud that "God" is written on my money."

I was ok with everything written except that. Don't those 2 comments cancel each other out? So we have religious freedom as long as we're Christian? That seems to be the view too many Americans have.

Justinec101

Wait a second??? That is supposed to be by George Carlin??? Yeah Right!!!!

*Edit:

That was bugging me so much I had to find out how it ended up with his name on it. http://www.georgecarlin.com/home/dontblame.html

Apparently people are trying to put words in his mouth or something which I think is disgusting.

joeyr

Personally I dont view "As we God we trust" as the God in Christanity, or Judaism, or Isalm. But for many people God is our money, and he is one that is worshipped everyday.

lear4406

I believe the money has "In God We Trust". If it were soley Christian it would say " In Jesus We Trust". I am Christian and I see it as it states. But if I were Jewish or Muslim I would believe it pertained to my God. If I were of some other belief or lack there of, I would respect the country in which I was in. This is Carlins words or not so take it for what it is worth. As far as too many Americans having a Christian leaning. We are a Society based on Judeo Christian beliefs and more people profess a Christian belief in the USA. If you were in another Country, say Iran.... what Religious belief do you think it would follow. We should enjoy the freedom we have and be glad our history has the people in it that it does. We were shaped by the characters of our past, good, bad or indifferent. We got to where we are by all these folks. I for one have seen the changes as we go more towards a progressive life style. I can't say I like it, but I will deal with it.

Jeremiah 29:11

lear4406......I agree with you and will add one thing.

The founding fathers were not perfect but were bible believing Christians and as such when this nation was formed it was also blessed
and continues to be blessed to this day. Yes there is a bible belt in this country: The "Bible Belt" is a slang term used for a geographical
region in the South and the midsection of the United States -- areas that host large groups of fundamentalist Christians.

This is why this is the most powerful nation in the world. Many nations have fallen because they
turned away from God such as Russia.

If this country ever turns its back on God, this country will go down the proverbial toilet. Things like legalizing abortion, taking prayer out of schools,
removing the 10 commandments off of government property(like court houses), supporting homosexuality and gay marriages, removing references to God in our books,
supporting pornography.

All of these, are things that God strictly forbids or things that make you turn away from God.

Guys and gals these are things that God tells us, not just my opinion based on some ideaology. In other words, I didn't make this up.

If you want to share your opinion, please fell free to do so but have the bible be supportive of it. Otherwise, your opinion is without any truth to it.

Justinec101

"If this country ever turns its back on God, this country will go down the proverbial toilet. Things like legalizing abortion, taking prayer out of schools,
removing the 10 commandments off of government property(like court houses), supporting homosexuality and gay marriages, removing references to God in our books, supporting pornography."

I can't say I have a firm stance on abortion, it isn't something I've had experience with and is obviously a very complex issue. I'll leave the decision making up to other people on that one (for now anyway). What do you mean take prayer out of schools? Like group praying or something? As far as I know an individual has every right to pray in a public school but there is no official "prayer hour" or something. I'm confused on this part. I don't see homosexuality as something to "support". You either are or you aren't and I'm not in any position to tell someone what gender they're attracted too. I'm not sure about the reference to taking God out of books. What books exactly? The concept of a god obviously has had a huge impact on history so I don't see any reason why it should not be referenced.

"If you want to share your opinion, please fell free to do so but have the bible be supportive of it. Otherwise, your opinion is without any truth to it."

We need not believe in any god to have morals. I don't appreciate being told my opinion has no merit unless it's backed by the bible.

Thanks for reading what I have to say.

Jeremiah 29:11

"I can't say I have a firm stance on abortion, it isn't something I've had experience with and is obviously a very complex issue. I'll leave the decision making up to other people on that one (for now anyway). "

Well, you should have an opinion since it is called murder.
People will say that it is their own body, they can do with it what they want. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.


What do you mean take prayer out of schools? Like group praying or something? As far as I know an individual has every right to pray in a public school but there is no official "prayer hour" or something.

I am guessing but you must be young as back in the 50's, 60's and 70's there used to be prayers in school, just like there is a Pledge of Allegiance. Now most schools have a quiet time without the prayer.


I'm confused on this part. I don't see homosexuality as something to "support". You either are or you aren't and I'm not in any position to tell someone what gender they're attracted too.

Let me help you with the confusion. There are school districts around the country that allowing "alternative lifestyles" to be taught to children in elementary school.
As a parent, I have a strong voice on what moralities/value system I want taught to my children and that is not one of them.
There are companies that are promoting homosexuals so they are seen as not being discriminating agains homosexuals and not because they are better employees
as it looks good on their point card.

Romans 1:18,26

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of human beings who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.



I'm not sure about the reference to taking God out of books. What books exactly? The concept of a god obviously has had a huge impact on history so I don't see any reason why it should not be referenced.

What I mean by books are things like the references to God off of money, out of the Pledge of Allegiance, the court room oath, etc..

Just so we know where I stand, there is no such thing as the concept of a god..........there is God.......the one and only.

We need not believe in any god to have morals. I don't appreciate being told my opinion has no merit unless it's backed by the bible.
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Okay, so what are we to use a reference plane (like a carpenters leveler or a compass for direction)for our truth. There are certain portions of our population that their morals tell them that we are infidels and should be destroyed so does that make it right. That is the morals they were raised with. So which one is worse, a pedophile, a rapist, a murder? In our eyes, we would think the murderer is worse because in our society he will probably be put to death. In God's eyes they are a sin and a stain. There is a difference between societies truth and God's truth.

God's truth comes from the bible.

By the way, I did not say you did not have a morals. What I said, was your opinion may be without truth.

God speaks to us in several different ways:

1. The Bible or scripture

2. Sermon

Justinec101

"I am guessing but you must be young as back in the 50's, 60's and 70's there used to be prayers in school, just like there is a Pledge of Allegiance. Now most schools have a quiet time without the prayer."

Yes. Since that time the prayer has been done away with. Some schools may in fact have a quiet time without prayer and I believe they do, however I did not attend one of these schools. I don't really have a problem with a "quiet time" since it doesn't hurt anyone or push any sort of religious agenda.

Let me help you with the confusion. There are shcol districts around the country that allowing "alternative lifestyles" to be taught to children in elementary school. As a parent, I have a strong voice on what moralities/value system I want taught to my children and that is not one of them.
There are companies that are promoting homosexuals so they are seen as not being discriminating agains homosexuals and not because they are better employees
as it looks good on their point card.

I recall very little on "alternative lifestyles" being taught when I was in elementary or junior high school. You had the lesson or story here or there about kids that live with an aunt or an uncle instead of a mom or dad. I can definitely believe that they're now explaining that some children do in fact have two mothers or two fathers. What part of this is the problem? As far as I can tell nobody is telling your child to become a homosexual, only to be aware that other children may have parents who are in fact homosexual. It is a fact that this is a situation that exists in our society. Should the child who happens to have 2 male parents be ignored over the child who lives with an aunt or an uncle, or a grandfather and grandmother? The child didn't choose who his/her parents were, and deserves the respect of the other kids as much as the one who didn't choose to have his parents killed in a car accident. How is this to be explained to kids? What happens when your child is in a class with "timmy who has 2 mothers" and the other kids make fun of him? Should schools ignore this or explain it?

As for the issue with companies promoting homosexuals to look good, can this not be said of any minority? The same is done with African-Americans, Indians, Asians, etc. This is an issue that has to be taken up with these companies. There are obviously homosexuals who are taking advantage of this, but there are other minorities taking advantage of it as well. This is an issue that can not be blamed on anyone specifically. The government gives incentives to companies, the companies take advantage of them. The root of this entire problem is the fact that we as a society can not accept people as equals. Instead we promote them to higher paying jobs so that we look like we accept them. If we ignored race and sexual preference entirely, pretended it was invisible, then these "point cards" would dissapear.

If this country ever turns its back on God, this country will go down the proverbial toilet. Things like legalizing abortion, taking prayer out of schools,
removing the 10 commandments off of government property(like court houses), supporting homosexuality and gay marriages, removing references to God in our books, supporting pornography.

So in the end I'm still not understanding how the country will go down the toilet as you say, if these things were to happen. Perhaps god would not like it if everyone suddenly accepted homosexuality, but how would that hurt our country? What negative effect would accepting a group of people have? If anything accepting homosexuals the way they are would pave the way towards accepting everyone else, and doing away with racism altogether. Prayer is already out of schools and I've yet to see any negative effect of that. Also, what are the consequences of removing "God" from money? Or from inscriptions on the sides of buildings? Does removing his name cause him to stop existing?