kramtrah

Now can't we all just get along. Certainly we are a spirited bunch, but the Challenger certainly has done that to us. I agree that this is all just symatics for us all, in that, we get the car we get because we like it. As for me, that has to be a sublime SRT8 Challenger. Others, it's the R/T, and further more, some will be fine with a v6. I certainly think the Mustang is a worthy car, but I'm not a Ford guy, never have been, and never will be. GM is farther off the block for me, while there are some very respectable vehicles that are now finding a great niche, like Malibu, Aura, and certainly the CTS-V.

So what I am saying, we all will have our own likes and dislikes, and this diehard Mopar nut will be adding another to his garage later this year or early next.

Jeremiah 29:11

Just so everybody knows where I am coming from, my family had nothing but Fords and Oldsmobiles.

In my teenage years, I got my Challenger.

Now as an adult in my family we have a Ford Supercrew F150, Ford Taurus, Ford Mustang GT, and a Dodge Caravan.

Obviously, my favorite Muscle Car is the Dodge Challenger and my favorite car of all time is the Ford GT40. Unfortunately, when Ford decided to manufacturer the Ford GT40 and called it a Ford GT.........it was just too expensive for me and it broke my heart.

When I picked up the 1st magazine with the Ford GT acticle in it and scrambled around looking for the price and found it......I was so disappointed and knew it was not practical for me to buy.

Fast forward to the future and I can afford the big bad Challenger and that is where my sights are set and that is why I am here.

RLSH700

No, Riptide. It's a fact, a Mustang GT under 5 secs are the ones that are nonsense and here's the evidence. Read it and weep.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...r_srt8_feature

Want to ignore logic, here's another one:

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...c_srt8_feature

and another, here's a sample proving what I said about the top speed:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...srt8_road_test
another
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...300c_srt8.html
and another

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1918
and another
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=2
and just to make things interesting this is what it can do with shorter gearing and AWD in a heavier box vehicle which still counts as it is an SRT-8
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._cherokee_srt8
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._cherokee_srt8

These articles prove my point. The only SRT-8 that I have found that has trouble getting below the 5 sec mark the the Magnum which is the boxiest of the LX cars. The Charger and 300 SRTs are pretty consistently under 5 seconds, and the Challenger is stated as being more aerodynamic.

kevin, I was referring to the Charger SRT-8 not the Challenger which I believe Chrysler still likes to say low 5 secs even though the magazines results say its faster than that. But I appreciate your input nevertheless. I'm happy to help whoever I see is correct in their arguments.

kevin2323

oh my bad i didnt know you were talkin about the current lx cars... yea they say low 5s.

JJMPB

the casualties are starting to pile up on both sides

Riptide

Thanks for the links RLSH700.

I didn't see anything there where they explicitly took the SRT8 up to top speed. But it appears it definitely is a sub 5 second 0-60 car.

Still, that's a lot to pay for an extra .2-.3 seconds over a GT. But to each his own I guess.

kevin2323

yea i understand your point riptide, but i think why people buy these cars even though a base gt can get close to it is of the potential the motor has... and the 6.1 l is very restricted on these cars especially the torque. the 4.6l cant output as much as the 6.1 l can

Riptide

Here's an example of 0-60 4.9 seconds in the GT.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3

So much for 4.9 being nonsense. SRT8 is still a tad faster though.

DSkippy

If they made a Mustang II (escort) that would accelerate 0-60 in in 4.9, I wouldn't buy it because it doesn't appeal to me. Is 7000 dollars a lot to pay just for slightly better or similar acceleration? Yes, it's too much.

The salient point being missed, is I'm not buying a zero to 60 machine (i'd buy a motorcycle if that were my intention) I'm buying a powerful, attractive embodiment of an era gone by with the improvements this era has to offer.

You can't put the right price on the wrong product, and for the majority of members of this board, the Mustang isn't the right product.

Axel

Basically it goes like this, people are going to buy what they buy and be blind to everythign else. It comes down to loyalty. Interior is a big thing to some people, other people only see the body. Solid rear axel is a big thing to some people, other people only see the body and a nicer ride on an older person. *wink, wink* Some people are just so blind that they don't care what the vehicle looks like, they'll buy it no matter what, Ford owners come to mind on that with the F-150 that was a box on wheels in these recent past years.

People buy what they buy because they like it. People don't buy what they don't buy because they don't like it. That's the amazing thing we have around here in this country, choice. We have a choice of where to spend our money and some money are chosing not to put it into the economy right now because we don't have it since prices are so high on everything, other people have the money to do it and are going to do it. Arguing interior, looks, speed, engine, transmission, faster or slower then this or that is not going to change any person's mind once they made it up. The only thing that might change someone's mind is if something better came out. For example, a Charger is brought out that is retro and everything is perfect, which is impossible because there will always be some complaint.

To wrap this up, you like what you like and you don't like what you don't like. You decide what people make by what you buy, you decide what people change by what you buy, you don't like it, don't buy it, you do, keep buying it and nothing will change. Mustang is an example. Popularity is starting to die off so now they are changing it. Only you/we can decided and even then it may be limited, but it will envoke a change.