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Old 05-06-2008 | 12:29 PM
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Wowsers! That's gonna have grunt and then some.

I hope where ever you test it, there is some resilient macadam, 'cause that things gonna eat it up and spit it out....

Hope you post footage to youtube or some other outlet!

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Old 05-06-2008 | 01:23 PM
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Just called and got my copy..


Thanks

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I got my copy from 7/11 4.99 the phone # iside the cover is(727)712-0035 clearwater florida
Old 05-06-2008 | 01:52 PM
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thanks for the info guys. i was able to find two copies today...my article is on page 38...
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That is a true statement... I have been talking a lot about the forced air Ford and GM have been going to. Hemi on the other hand has had tweaks done to it, 2 spark plugs to help in flame travel, VVT and varible displacement. And to go to a supercharger is tuner and aftermarket stuff. I love superchargers, but when a factory has to go to it to keep up... well thats just lazy or stagnant engineering. I'm glad the boys at Dodge have stayed the course and try new ideas and keep it fresh.
Now in fairness to Ford and GM, they have been doing some of these routes as well. Ford has been using VCT in some of their V8s such as the 4.6L in the Mustang and the 5.4L in the F-Series, and they have been using Gasoline Direct Injection on some of their supercharged versions of the 5.4L and they are using multi-valve engines. The issue is they need larger displacement than what they are using as well as the OHV tends to be a better route for efficiency in price, in consistent overall power, and in fuel economy if done correctly than their multi-valve route for V8s. They would probably benefit if they would go back to OHV engines again as GM and Chrysler have stuck with in the V8 category. GM was the one who originally came up with a Multidisplacement system back in the 80s and they have made a couple versions of their current V8s including the LS4 found in the W-body cars, the 6.0 found in the new G8, their 5.3L in their truck line up and several other models. They have also added VVT to these V8s as well. Although I have more respect for Chrysler since they have not resorted to forced air induction to V8s just yet on this current line up, GM at least has not resorted to using forced air induction every time their competition has put them into a corner in the V8 market as Ford has done and when they have, they have an offering that is very difficult to beat without resorting to similar tactics.

DSkippy, considering how close the two cars are already, it would completely be no contest, probably not even against a GT500KR since the improvements are so mild over the normal GT500. I personally would be more interested in seeing how a 6.4L powered Challenger would do. Regardless, providing a little over double the hp is an outstanding improvement and would be amazing.
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Old 05-07-2008 | 04:46 AM
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I agree and thanks for the update on the GMs evolution of LS engines. I have not kept up with GMs line of engines, but do know the power and performance they are capable of. But Ford on the other hand has resorted to supercharging most all the perfomance oriented rides. now GM in suit with the Vette in trying to one up the Viper. I had to stand my ground over the years of High School and on the street as well as the track... being a Mopar guy you will only have a few guys who have your back. I let my car do the talking and did not have to repeat myself too often. Mind you I picked and choosed who I would line up against. I was not the baddest by any stretch. But we did have a 440-6 pro-street Challenger we would haunt the streets of Concord and Kannapolis in. Have a lot of stories and have been known to go on about them So I tend to go to protection mode when Ford and GM guys start to talk. I have more respect today than in previous years, I'm getting old at 48 and a little more meloncollie(SIC). But the point I try to make is Forced Air Induction is an advantage at most, an eqaulizer at minimum. I'm old school N/A and hide the NO2
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ORIGINAL: 1 Bad Mirada

thanks for the info guys. i was able to find two copies today...my article is on page 38...
Found the article and it has a lot of pictures. I will read it tonight. Looks nice.
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I agree and thanks for the update on the GMs evolution of LS engines. I have not kept up with GMs line of engines, but do know the power and performance they are capable of. But Ford on the other hand has resorted to supercharging most all the perfomance oriented rides. now GM in suit with the Vette in trying to one up the Viper. I had to stand my ground over the years of High School and on the street as well as the track... being a Mopar guy you will only have a few guys who have your back. I let my car do the talking and did not have to repeat myself too often. Mind you I picked and choosed who I would line up against. I was not the baddest by any stretch. But we did have a 440-6 pro-street Challenger we would haunt the streets of Concord and Kannapolis in. Have a lot of stories and have been known to go on about them So I tend to go to protection mode when Ford and GM guys start to talk. I have more respect today than in previous years, I'm getting old at 48 and a little more meloncollie(SIC). But the point I try to make is Forced Air Induction is an advantage at most, an eqaulizer at minimum. I'm old school N/A and hide the NO2
You're very welcome, lear. I was there as well in H.S. I was the only Chrysler fan while everyone else was either a Ford or GM guy and they united against me (I'm not sure about the logic on why you need to all unite against one person). They always called my Intrepid "decrepit" even though the fact of the matter is my Intrepid had a lot more power and was faster than anything they had. The other funny thing was their logic that somehow having two less doors is able to trump a 70-100hp advantage and that acceleration times that magazines found my Intrepid having between 1-2.5 second acceleration advantage in the 0-60 run will have no bearing in the equation because "my car has a lot of zip." Yes well, my car has a lot of hp & tq and does not rely on grainy gearing to cover up for the fact that your car has no power whatsoever. I finally shut them up when on the way home one day, the one person driving a 93 Grand Am SOHC I4 8 valve kept trying to pass me and every time he put on his blinker I gunned the gas pedal. I think he found out the difference between zip and power and the number of doors does not effect the outcome. The other thing is they would always tell me "your transmission will be going out on you anytime now" (87K was the mileage that I had at the time), they had head gasket failures, needed repainting 6 years ago (and one of their vehicles was the same year as mine), transmission problems of their own, and other issues and my Intrepid has 158K currently and its doing fine other than needing a new paint job due to always being in the sun, lack of effort on my part to wax it as often as I should, and simple age.

The truth of the matter is I have gained more respect for GM as time has gone on, and lost some for Ford (as I used to like Ford 2nd to Chrysler). Chrysler and GM are the ones who prove that the traditional way of building engines is not outdated, it's simply a different approach for different advantages and a person's taste.
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