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I built that! I like it.

[quote]'I built that," retired Chrysler assembly worker Jimmie Wilson said, hurrying across the parking lot of Athens Coney Island in Royal Oak toward the silver 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8. "No. Wait," the 65-year-old Detroiter said as he got closer to the muscular new Dodge coupe. "It's different."
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The new Challenger looks enough like the 1970 car that inspired it to fool a guy who built the original. Under the skin, though, it's better in ways the engineers who cruised Woodward Avenue a generation ago never dreamed of.

The Challenger, a performance coupe that comes only in max-performance 425-horsepower SRT8 trim for the 2008 model year, will grow into a full model line this fall, as less-expensive 2009 models with smaller engines and higher fuel economy arrive.

Prices for the '08 SRT8, which features a 6.1-liter version of Chrysler LLC's iconic Hemi V8 engine, massive race-ready Brembo brakes among other upgrades, start at $39,420, including a $2,100 federal gas-guzzler tax but excluding destination charges. The only options Dodge offers on the SRT8 are a navigation system and sunroof and a $50 charge for summer tires.

I drove a Challenger SRT8 with the summer tires.

The Challenger SRT8 has a top speed of 170 m.p.h. and accelerates to 60 in 4.9 seconds.

Those figures put the Challenger SRT8 squarely in the supercar class with elite models like the BMW M3 coupe, but its price is thousands of dollars less.

For a fast car, though, it sure takes a long time to get anywhere in the SRT8. The big coupe draws a crowd in every parking lot and can stop traffic as other drivers maneuver for a better look and ask questions: Is it fast? Does it have air bags and other modern safety features? Can I buy one? Do you like it?

Yes, yes, yes. A thousand times yes.

The Challenger rides on a shortened version of the platform that underpins the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger. That means it comes with antilock brakes, electronic stability control and curtain air bags and powerful four-piston ventilated Brembo disc brakes.

The technologies Chrysler used to create the LX platform that underpins the Challenger didn't exist when the 1970 Challenger rolled off the assembly line under Jimmie Wilson's eye.

A fully independent suspension and sport-tuned 20-inch all-season performance tires provide the new Challenger with road holding and grip infinitely superior to Detroit's first generation of muscle cars. Those cars were fast and furious in a straight line, but they did not approach the handling possible with modern tires, suspension and computer-aided engineering.

The suspension holds the Challenger secure through dramatic turns and on hyperspeed straightaways, but the Challenger's ride is also very comfortable, absorbing the bumps of rough pavement without the teeth-jarring impact that came with first-generation muscle cars.

Comfort and road holding are both superior to the Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500, which uses the same muscle-car formula but is limited by its solid rear axle.

Powered by an upgraded version of the Hemi V8, the Challenger's head-snapping acceleration is channeled smoothly through Chrysler's six-speed automatic transmission. That gearbox responds well in tap shift mode, but the lack of a true manual is one of the Challenger's few shortcomings. The 2009 SRT8 will offer a six-speed manual when it goes on sale this fall.

Anyone who buys a car like the Challenger SRT8 and complains about fuel economy should stop whining. That said, the SRT is thirsty. It requires premium gasoline and has EPA fuel economy ratings of 13 m.p.g. city and 18 m.p.g. highway.

The front seat is roomy and comfortable, with plenty of storage bins and pockets. Rear legroom is less generous, but rear headroom is good and the 16.2-cubic-foot trunk has

Albeeno

Questions & concerns:

- 0-60 in 4.9 (seeing this figure much more frequently nowadays than the previously-boasted 4.7 secs, according to Road & Track)
- The front fascia doesn't line up "perfectly" with the hood and front fenders?!?!?! Are you effin kidding me???
- This person reports that 8,000 2008 SRT8's will be produced, not the very specific 6,400 units that Chrysler had us believe. Seriously what is the deal once and for all on total production for the `08s???

So, if I'm one of those who had to have the first ones I would be pretty frustrated right now. I don't know if I could get past a few simple factors here: Chances are I probably paid a fairly significant mark up to my local stealership for a car that doesn't line up perfectly in the front; whose exclusivity seems to be waning by the day; only offers a slush box transmission...and at this rate will NEVER FRIGGIN ARRIVE!

So glad I'm waiting for 2009!

lear4406

I think the results they show are the best recorded. Why show the slowest? Dodge put 0-60 in under 5 sec. So you see they stayed pretty conservative and its the mags that post their own results. I for one would look to the best I could do and present that over the worst. As far as those who have ordered it and are waiting, I'm sure they will be alright. If they don't want it ... there is a line of folks who do.

mopar2ya

Copy that lear... would be pointless to show the worst time logged by someone. [&:]
Best times out of the blocks are going to depict actual capabilities from a competent driver, which definately makes more sense.

Thor77

Albeeno, keep in mind this was a pre-production car. If the real 08 fascia does not line up, I am sure the owners will raise holy hades. That would be completely unacceptable for a 40K car, and I think (hope) Dodge knows that.

0-60 times will always vary a couple 10ths from one test to another. Ambient temp, track surface, driver technique, elevation, condition of the particular engine/tires/drivetrain of the given test vehicle are more than enough to cover a couple tenths variation.

Albeeno

All very good points, Thor.