DSkippy

Awsure, you're dead on! I hope there's a wash, I hope it is one of the most proliferated vehicles on the road. I like the style, I don't want there necessarily to be exclusivity. The only reason I want an SRT8 is to viscerally please me and me alone. I could give two squirts for what anyone else thinks about my mopar.

If others think its as beautiful a ride as I do, I hope anyone can afford it. Maybe if they make enough, they'll expand the product offering and a resurgence will emerge ushering in new and exciting cars.

If they try to make this exclusive, they won't realize the profit they need to make the whole thing worth while and they'll likely not venture into new exciting models.

Hell I'd like to see them get funky with the 6's. Have a base, a high performance and possibly a turbo charged or blown 6. Watch the sparks fly. The pseuedonym poor man's hemi could now refer to a "6 stack" or "6 Pakk" which would be one of these goosed 6 cyls.

Be kind of fun to see a "small" displacement 6 factory tweaked to be close to the hemi's...

lear4406

I seem to remember the 1969 Road Runner. But I think the base motor was a 383. You could get the Hemi or the 440-6 but it was an option. The 383 Road Runner base model had rubber mats, no power anything and an AM radio. No frills street bruiser. The Duster comes to mind, but I think the 340 had the all the bells and whistles. The feather Duster was the base and I think it was 225 slant-six with a manual 3-speed. Thats the latest year I can think of that they offered a no frills base priced street racer. 1970 they optioned up and priced themselves out of what worked. Guys coming back from Nam wanted a cheap power house and the 1969 Roadrunner fit the bill nicely. Beep Beep!!

Thor77

The 06 Evo RS was a "stripper" model with the same engine of the top line MR. It was (is, there's probably a few on the lots still) actually faster in a straight line because of all the stuff they took out (like the radio)

Jeremiah 29:11

Interesting discussion on whether to have a V-6 or not.

I honestly think it's a moot point because the V-6 will be in the 2nd half of 2008 starting around mid-summer.

RLSH700

You are not a jerk, just mistaken. We do not tolerate name calling, so you shouldn't have to worry about that happening. The reason why I believe you are mistaken is you fail to understand that the V6 they would most likely offer (the 3.5L to begin with followed by either a 3.6L or 4.0L Phoenix) will be a lot faster than what people expect. I know that for years that when a muscle car had a slant, straight, or V6 engine, it was slow, but that is no longer the case. The 3.5L produces a lot more hp and slightly less torque than the 318 offered in the Challenger when you compare the same rating system (net to net ratings). Considering that the original Challenger had the slant six that was even less powerful and the 318 that was hardly a performance engine, it did not cause people to consider the Challenger to be a slow car because they knew about the offerings of the 340 six-pack, the 440s, and the legendary 426 HEMI. If the slant six and 318 did not destroy the performance image of the Challenger, I doubt that a 250hp & 250ft-lbs of tq engine will do the same to the image that the other engines will give the Challenger.

Just look for an example at the 300 and Charger sedans. The 3.5L is offered in both of those cars and do people consider those cars to be slow and lame? Hardly. Even though they do offer an engine that is slow and lame (the 2.7L V6), when people look at the 300 and Charger, the exciting question pops up into their head "I wonder if that has a HEMI in it? not "I bet that car has that weakling 2.7L engine that yeilds no advantages." When people see the 300 and Charger, they think of the 5.7L and the 6.1L, not the 3.5L and certainly not the 2.7L; therefore, it will not hurt the performance image. Besides, current day V6 muscle cars are getting to be fast. The current Mustang 4.0L V6 when equipped with a manual is only a couple tenths of a second behind the final 5.0L powered Mustang GT's 0-60 time. The 3.5L in the 2 ton LX cars (which only offer autos) have 0-60 times ranging from the low 7 secs to the low 8 sec range, if it was given the efficiency advantage of a manual, I'm sure it would fall below the 7 sec mark. Heck, even our Administrator "1 Bad Mirada" says that the 3.5L is no slouch and he has plenty driven plenty of fast machines.

As for the thought that if they do not offer a V6, the 5.7L will not feature standard luxuries as leather, auto windows, cup holders, and GPS. I hate to break it to you, but if the 5.7L comes standard, expect it to come loaded. They will

Jeremiah 29:11

One thing that will help the Challenger is she looks mean and awesome. I like watching the 1st time viewers of the Challenger
at the auto shows and watch their expression and they are amazed at what her looks. The Hemi orange paint makes it pop when you see
her in real life and the cars curves just say "Bad to the Bone".

Ziegenbak

Well I guess now I won't feel too bad if all I can afford is the v6

I realize that hoping for a base package/biggest engine is a pipe dream, but I'm still gonna keep dreaming til I get crushed. If there is a V6 made, will that make it more likely to get a simpler 5.7L? BTW, the cup holder being added to the list of features I don't need was supposed to be a joke.

Jeremiah, that was the EXACT song I planned on playing when I pull up next to friends for the first time in the car.

Jeremiah 29:11

I have a V-6 in my Dodge Caravan and she moves when I punch it. She will do okay in a Challenger.

RLSH700

Will it increase the chances of getting a 5.7L with less standard luxuries? Probably not, but will it lower the chances that the dealers will jack up the prices? Most likely. Will it make the cost of producing a Challenger less due to economies of scale and help lower the price? Probably.

Okay, I misunderstood you because some have debated in the past that it shouldn't have a cup holder (which I will never understand why it shouldn't). Enjoy your stay here, I look forward to having future discussions and debates.

Axel

The problem I see with the reasoning of someone pulling up next to you and wondering if the thing has a Hemi in it or not is if they can't read the side of the car or don't know what to look for in a car that has a Hemi. Of course I have met one of those before when I had my truck and he was right on the side of me when I was getting gas. The badging on it, the exhaust all indicate if it has a Hemi or not. The Hemi cars all have duel exhaust, have the R/T on the front and back, or SRT, and have the Hemi badge on the side. Again, maybe some people wouldn't know that the SRT or R/T come with the Hemi, but the side would definitely give it away. When it's a smaller engine it had 3.5L High Output on the side and then when it's the smaller engine it doesn't have anything on the side.

I would have to agree with bringing out the V-6s though, it makes the Hemi's more affordable because then not everyone is trying to grab the one car with one engine. In a sense it creates competition for the car itself and makes sure that it keeps the dealers in line....at least a little.