I'm getting a bit disappointed... Please help!
08-23-2008 | 09:29 PM
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RE: I'm getting a bit disappointed... Please help!
Why in he11 would you want an RT if you are concerned with performance. Get a clue!
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Now that the R/Ts are getting road tested with the 6-speed... I gotta tell you all I'm more than a bit underwhelmed. 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, with the 1/4 in 14.1..? That's it?
Even the manual SRT8 disappoints, with the 5.5 0-60... come on!!!! A lowly 305 hp 1998 LS1 Z28 blows those figures out of the water. Now granted that car is a few hundred pounds lighter... but still, I'm very disappointed with the performance figures of the Challenger thus far, I don't mind saying.
If this is the best the Challenger can do, it'll surely be a laughing stock when the 422 hp LS3 Camaro SS comes out - GM is already projecting 0-60 in less than 4.9 seconds with the 1/4 in low 13s, and it'll get better MPG to boot (and probably be a helluva lot less expensive).
Now don't get me wrong, folks - I'm not about to jump on the GM bandwagon, and I still love the Challenger... but for all the time I've waited to get one, I just expected a whole lot better. I'm not looking for a car that will blow a new Camaro's doors off, but I don't want to get embarrassed by one either, which looks like a very distinct possibility if this is as good as it's gonna get.
I know, I know... "with a few mods you'll be able to do _____" yadda yadda yadda... I shouldn't HAVE to do any mods just to be able to keep up with a base Mustang GT, much less a new Camaro.
The car looks gorgeous and ultra-cool... but if that's all I have to look forward to, I just might change my mind... and I really don't want to. I'm hoping those road tests were unusually slow test mules.
Now that the R/Ts are getting road tested with the 6-speed... I gotta tell you all I'm more than a bit underwhelmed. 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, with the 1/4 in 14.1..? That's it?
Even the manual SRT8 disappoints, with the 5.5 0-60... come on!!!! A lowly 305 hp 1998 LS1 Z28 blows those figures out of the water. Now granted that car is a few hundred pounds lighter... but still, I'm very disappointed with the performance figures of the Challenger thus far, I don't mind saying.
If this is the best the Challenger can do, it'll surely be a laughing stock when the 422 hp LS3 Camaro SS comes out - GM is already projecting 0-60 in less than 4.9 seconds with the 1/4 in low 13s, and it'll get better MPG to boot (and probably be a helluva lot less expensive).
Now don't get me wrong, folks - I'm not about to jump on the GM bandwagon, and I still love the Challenger... but for all the time I've waited to get one, I just expected a whole lot better. I'm not looking for a car that will blow a new Camaro's doors off, but I don't want to get embarrassed by one either, which looks like a very distinct possibility if this is as good as it's gonna get.
I know, I know... "with a few mods you'll be able to do _____" yadda yadda yadda... I shouldn't HAVE to do any mods just to be able to keep up with a base Mustang GT, much less a new Camaro.
The car looks gorgeous and ultra-cool... but if that's all I have to look forward to, I just might change my mind... and I really don't want to. I'm hoping those road tests were unusually slow test mules.
08-23-2008 | 09:31 PM
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Yeah right!
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Heck I have a 04 Sebring 2.4l 4cyl with minor mods that kicks mustang gt's all day at the track
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Yankee...get a clue before you post a rant on here. You obviously do not have a car yet, so I will clue you in.
I have a bone stock '08 srt8.
Best 0-60 time out on the street was 4.4 sec
Took it to the track once to see what she'll do and again, bone stock, 13.205 sec run.
And just to clear up your perception of the mustang gt; I raced one at the track. You can even see the video on google video. (jonathan's 2008 dodge challenger srt8) I ran a 13.295 on that run while the brand new mustang gt ran a 15+ second run. You actually can't even see him in part of the video because he is so far behind!
And as you said...a few mods and....
well a few mods and you will be in the high 12s. show me any "mustang gt" with only $1500 of mods that is running 12s that isn't running a 250 shot of nitrous that will end up blowing up in a month.
and one last thing...go buy a slowmaro or buttstang so my chally is worth more later.
Yankee...get a clue before you post a rant on here. You obviously do not have a car yet, so I will clue you in.
I have a bone stock '08 srt8.
Best 0-60 time out on the street was 4.4 sec
Took it to the track once to see what she'll do and again, bone stock, 13.205 sec run.
And just to clear up your perception of the mustang gt; I raced one at the track. You can even see the video on google video. (jonathan's 2008 dodge challenger srt8) I ran a 13.295 on that run while the brand new mustang gt ran a 15+ second run. You actually can't even see him in part of the video because he is so far behind!
And as you said...a few mods and....
well a few mods and you will be in the high 12s. show me any "mustang gt" with only $1500 of mods that is running 12s that isn't running a 250 shot of nitrous that will end up blowing up in a month.
and one last thing...go buy a slowmaro or buttstang so my chally is worth more later.
08-24-2008 | 08:30 AM
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Why in he11 would you want an RT if you are concerned with performance. Get a clue!
Why in he11 would you want an RT if you are concerned with performance. Get a clue!
wsm, for one thing, $11-$12K may not mean a lot to you, however to others it may be the final decision by either the bank or future owner whether to buy or not.
Another thing is that we really haven't seen any concrete test results on either the manual or auto R/T, so basically there isn't any baseline for performance as there is with the SRT8. Like the original poster I am concerned that a new R/T won't even be able to beat a Mustang (high 13's). Also whether you like the magazines or not, it does at least give you something to go by.
What some of you guys who are thinking R/T might need to do is chill for a couple of months and see what develops.
wsm, I can afford the $11K + difference between the SRT8 and R/T, but just because I can afford it, doesn't mean I will spend it. This is why I started a thread about whether the SRT8 is worth 11K more than the R/T. It was about getting ideas going.
08-24-2008 | 09:00 AM
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I went to a dealership yesterday and the RT is priced between 33-37k, while the SRT was 41k. The 09's will be more of a difference in price, but as far as the 08 SRT and 09 RT there isn't a lot of price difference unless you pay big markup.
08-24-2008 | 12:13 PM
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You don't really need to talk down to members like that. All this get a clue crap...........ugh
wsm, for one thing, $11-$12K may not mean a lot to you, however to others it may be the final decision by either the bank or future owner whether to buy or not.
Another thing is that we really haven't seen any concrete test results on either the manual or auto R/T, so basically there isn't any baseline for performance as there is with the SRT8. Like the original poster I am concerned that a new R/T won't even be able to beat a Mustang (high 13's). Also whether you like the magazines or not, it does at least give you something to go by.
What some of you guys who are thinking R/T might need to do is chill for a couple of months and see what develops.
wsm, I can afford the $11K + difference between the SRT8 and R/T, but just because I can afford it, doesn't mean I will spend it. This is why I started a thread about whether the SRT8 is worth 11K more than the R/T. It was about getting ideas going.
ORIGINAL: wallstreetman
Why in he11 would you want an RT if you are concerned with performance. Get a clue!
Why in he11 would you want an RT if you are concerned with performance. Get a clue!
wsm, for one thing, $11-$12K may not mean a lot to you, however to others it may be the final decision by either the bank or future owner whether to buy or not.
Another thing is that we really haven't seen any concrete test results on either the manual or auto R/T, so basically there isn't any baseline for performance as there is with the SRT8. Like the original poster I am concerned that a new R/T won't even be able to beat a Mustang (high 13's). Also whether you like the magazines or not, it does at least give you something to go by.
What some of you guys who are thinking R/T might need to do is chill for a couple of months and see what develops.
wsm, I can afford the $11K + difference between the SRT8 and R/T, but just because I can afford it, doesn't mean I will spend it. This is why I started a thread about whether the SRT8 is worth 11K more than the R/T. It was about getting ideas going.
08-24-2008 | 12:15 PM
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Why in he11 would you want an RT if you are concerned with performance. Get a clue!
Why in he11 would you want an RT if you are concerned with performance. Get a clue!
ORIGINAL: Yankee
Now that the R/Ts are getting road tested with the 6-speed... I gotta tell you all I'm more than a bit underwhelmed. 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, with the 1/4 in 14.1..? That's it?
Even the manual SRT8 disappoints, with the 5.5 0-60... come on!!!! A lowly 305 hp 1998 LS1 Z28 blows those figures out of the water. Now granted that car is a few hundred pounds lighter... but still, I'm very disappointed with the performance figures of the Challenger thus far, I don't mind saying.
If this is the best the Challenger can do, it'll surely be a laughing stock when the 422 hp LS3 Camaro SS comes out - GM is already projecting 0-60 in less than 4.9 seconds with the 1/4 in low 13s, and it'll get better MPG to boot (and probably be a helluva lot less expensive).
Now don't get me wrong, folks - I'm not about to jump on the GM bandwagon, and I still love the Challenger... but for all the time I've waited to get one, I just expected a whole lot better. I'm not looking for a car that will blow a new Camaro's doors off, but I don't want to get embarrassed by one either, which looks like a very distinct possibility if this is as good as it's gonna get.
I know, I know... "with a few mods you'll be able to do _____" yadda yadda yadda... I shouldn't HAVE to do any mods just to be able to keep up with a base Mustang GT, much less a new Camaro.
The car looks gorgeous and ultra-cool... but if that's all I have to look forward to, I just might change my mind... and I really don't want to. I'm hoping those road tests were unusually slow test mules.
Now that the R/Ts are getting road tested with the 6-speed... I gotta tell you all I'm more than a bit underwhelmed. 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, with the 1/4 in 14.1..? That's it?
Even the manual SRT8 disappoints, with the 5.5 0-60... come on!!!! A lowly 305 hp 1998 LS1 Z28 blows those figures out of the water. Now granted that car is a few hundred pounds lighter... but still, I'm very disappointed with the performance figures of the Challenger thus far, I don't mind saying.
If this is the best the Challenger can do, it'll surely be a laughing stock when the 422 hp LS3 Camaro SS comes out - GM is already projecting 0-60 in less than 4.9 seconds with the 1/4 in low 13s, and it'll get better MPG to boot (and probably be a helluva lot less expensive).
Now don't get me wrong, folks - I'm not about to jump on the GM bandwagon, and I still love the Challenger... but for all the time I've waited to get one, I just expected a whole lot better. I'm not looking for a car that will blow a new Camaro's doors off, but I don't want to get embarrassed by one either, which looks like a very distinct possibility if this is as good as it's gonna get.
I know, I know... "with a few mods you'll be able to do _____" yadda yadda yadda... I shouldn't HAVE to do any mods just to be able to keep up with a base Mustang GT, much less a new Camaro.
The car looks gorgeous and ultra-cool... but if that's all I have to look forward to, I just might change my mind... and I really don't want to. I'm hoping those road tests were unusually slow test mules.
08-25-2008 | 10:11 AM
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I went to a dealership yesterday and the RT is priced between 33-37k, while the SRT was 41k. The 09's will be more of a difference in price, but as far as the 08 SRT and 09 RT there isn't a lot of price difference unless you pay big markup.
I went to a dealership yesterday and the RT is priced between 33-37k, while the SRT was 41k. The 09's will be more of a difference in price, but as far as the 08 SRT and 09 RT there isn't a lot of price difference unless you pay big markup.
08-25-2008 | 11:51 AM
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R/T starts at 29,995. (Destination included) If you get the J package for 2 grand, and the six speed package for a grand, you have a nicely equipped car for 33K. 33 is a long way from 40. That's a year of groceries for a small family. Or a 40" tv on every wall of your living room if you're single
R/T starts at 29,995. (Destination included) If you get the J package for 2 grand, and the six speed package for a grand, you have a nicely equipped car for 33K. 33 is a long way from 40. That's a year of groceries for a small family. Or a 40" tv on every wall of your living room if you're single
That is a good difference, the dealership I was at has them priced between 33-37 k is what they told me, because of the slight markup and whatnot. If the RT's actual sale price ends up being over 35k I would go with an 08 SRT, but of course those are going to be gone in a few months unless you find a used 08 srt. Personally I am going with an 08 SRT, whether it is new or slightly used has yet to be seen.
08-25-2008 | 12:43 PM
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I saw a used 08/ SRT-8 on Autotrader a few days ago for 38,000$ with only 700 miles a black one... fastest color i've heard... must of been too fast for the guy...
If people can wait till the end of the year for the 09's im sure Dodge will be offering cash back... in 03' on my truck they had the 2500 cash back and that was when Dodge was doing "good"... Im sure just about everyone will be able to find an R/T for about 31k or 32k tops by the end of the year, it might not have every option imaginable but im sure you'll find one worth buying for a good price... just a thought...
... must of been too fast for the guy...If people can wait till the end of the year for the 09's im sure Dodge will be offering cash back... in 03' on my truck they had the 2500 cash back and that was when Dodge was doing "good"... Im sure just about everyone will be able to find an R/T for about 31k or 32k tops by the end of the year, it might not have every option imaginable but im sure you'll find one worth buying for a good price... just a thought...
08-25-2008 | 12:50 PM
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I would tend to agree that if you're much over 35 grand on an R/T, you might want to start looking at the SRT. Especially if you can get an 08 SRT at sticker. I think R/T should be selling near sticker soon (if not already), although with the right options checked you can quickly reach the 35ish range.
The "J" package with the leather interior is 2 grand, and most dealers would probably add that to the majority of cars they order for stock. Sunroof, stick shift, electronics package, 20" wheels are all about a grand each, so one could easily get overzealous and wind up around 37.
The "J" package with the leather interior is 2 grand, and most dealers would probably add that to the majority of cars they order for stock. Sunroof, stick shift, electronics package, 20" wheels are all about a grand each, so one could easily get overzealous and wind up around 37.